Nissan GT-R Superior?
i had a similar religious experience the first time i tried to enter a major intersection in a viper (11 years ago). after looking like an idiot spinning out, i collected my dignity, and gave the car the respect it was due. i really started to enjoy it, but never fully appreciated it (maybe gun-shy?) to it's full capacity.
Last edited by jaspergtr; Apr 16, 2008 at 03:35 PM.
Well of course you can make anything go fast, but it's what it costs to get it there. You'll see lots of 600-700 whp 997 TT's in just a few years, and they can do it without going internal. Clutches are going to be a must in any car, but replacing a dual clutch is going to cost you out the **** especially with all this new technology, and not a great demand considering the GT-R is the only one that uses it and who knows how labor intensive it will be considering all the gadgetry under the GT-R which any clutch is labor intensive, but there is no reason not to beleive it wont be mega complicated. Besides that, who knows how long it will be before someone like spec designs a clutch for the car. I think that's the reason Nissan has discourage modifications from the onset.
'spose I didn't I account for the whole dual clutch fiasco.
But I think as time goes on, just like any tech, the cost/methods will become more affordable and easier to accomplish than once thought.
Given the transmission is the Achilles heel of the potential, that is a rather large problem.
1)start with a fancy sports car then mod it repeatedly to improve trackability
2)as the car gets faster it becomes less streetable and anxiety builds about the potential for a big spin/wreck
3)pursue/campaign a dedicated low $$ track car - spec Miata especially - and sell the street/track hybrid monster and buy a new sports car for "street only"
4)get bored with the Miata and repeat #1 with the new sports car
2)as the car gets faster it becomes less streetable and anxiety builds about the potential for a big spin/wreck
3)pursue/campaign a dedicated low $$ track car - spec Miata especially - and sell the street/track hybrid monster and buy a new sports car for "street only"
4)get bored with the Miata and repeat #1 with the new sports car
I would also like to drive a GT-R just to see what I think of it, because at the end of the day I still enjoy driving all cars in general.
the tires that people are doing the tests on... aren't they the stock bridgestone r's? the summer tires that come on the premium edition? i don't see how this is a bad thing. maybe i don't see the issue. what is wrong with the stock car being sold with pilots? it meets more adverse conditions met everyday. and if it is such a disadvantage, why aren't different tires sold with the car in stock trim?
about the walter rohl comment... put him in a boxster s and he could probably run circles around a gt-r.
i think everybody is waiting for top gear to do their 'thing'. i am reserving judgement until i drive both, for no less than one week.
about the walter rohl comment... put him in a boxster s and he could probably run circles around a gt-r.
i think everybody is waiting for top gear to do their 'thing'. i am reserving judgement until i drive both, for no less than one week.
I don't think the tires on the stock 997 are bad at all! Rather, the stock premium, sticky, and very expensive tires on the GT-R are bad, for comparison purposes. Thus a GT3 or RS version would be better for comparison tests - I believe those have stickier tires, right?
I know us GT-R proponents have had a lot of ammo these past months to fuel this debate. I also know that you P-guys and GM guys have pretty much had to rely on dated/and or subjective retaliation. So it is with great pleasure I present you some volatile fuel for your passion to burn on.

Paul Walker, In a 2009 GT-R on set filming the 4th Fast and the Furious movie. Rip it up boys, you earned it.

Paul Walker, In a 2009 GT-R on set filming the 4th Fast and the Furious movie. Rip it up boys, you earned it.




, or 996 gt3). i really loved the balance of the c2.
Well, not really.
