Purchasing advise: TT/Gallardo/R8/360
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Cats exotic is located in WA, Im from Northeast area, so I must fly over there to look at the cars. Is lambo warranty 2 year/24000 miles, if thats the case, the 2004 and 2006 would make no differences as both are out of warranty. So as long as the clutch, bearing, 7500 mile service are done, the 2004 listed above from an non-lambo dealer is a good buy? What is the differences between my local non-lambo dealer to cat exotic which is also a
non - lambo dealer. The differences between a 2004 to a 2006 is more than $20,000. Do you think buying a 2004 and use the $20,000 saving for maintenance is a better idea?
Are you getting those numbers, 1400$, 2600$ from a authorized lambo dealer or local shops?
non - lambo dealer. The differences between a 2004 to a 2006 is more than $20,000. Do you think buying a 2004 and use the $20,000 saving for maintenance is a better idea?
Are you getting those numbers, 1400$, 2600$ from a authorized lambo dealer or local shops?
The services prices were what I was quoted from Bellevue Lamborghini just outside of Seattle.
Yup, anything but a late 06 is going to be out of warranty. I went for an '05 because I wanted a new clutch rev than the '04s and I also wanted the front end lifting capability due to my driveway. I was wanting to get an '06 but the prices were just more than I really wanted to spend.
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They actually broker cars all over. The car I'm buying is located in Missouri. I had a PPI done on it and talked to the service manager at St Louis Lamborghini. Cats also has a 72 hr buyback guarantee so if something is off when the car arrives they will buy it back from you. Defnitely check full details of that at their site. As for my car, I won't physically see it until it gets unloaded. I did pay for the PPI out of my pocket but it was cheaper than a plane ticket out there.
I went for an '05 because I wanted a new clutch rev than the '04s and I also wanted the front end lifting capability due to my driveway. I was wanting to get an '06 but the prices were just more than I really wanted to spend.
I went for an '05 because I wanted a new clutch rev than the '04s and I also wanted the front end lifting capability due to my driveway. I was wanting to get an '06 but the prices were just more than I really wanted to spend.
There is also a fair amount of marketing around improvements made in '06 on the suspension, 20HP, and shorter gears. I've tracked all of them and as a car to drive on the street I like the longer gears in the 04-05's. I could never feel the 20HP even when driven back to back.
I'm leary of Cats. There are many satisfied customers but there are also a lot of issues that seem to come up on FChat with them. The owner has had a few too many threads with apologies for my taste but again many are happy with them.
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I work for a top international law firm. Partners in my office are all multi-millionaires and could drive anything they want. But they all choose very conservative cars. But it is not an image thing as much as they just aren't in to cars. Everyone has something they are willing to spend a lot of money on. My brother has done very well for himself but he still drives an old Toyota and buys his suits at Wal-Mart. But he spends incredible amounts on money traveling the world with his family. Many of the partners at my firm spend outrageous amounts of money on wine. I don't drink, so I don't spend money on wine. Yet I understand why they do - they REALLY like wine. They don't drink it to portray an image. They think spending 6-figures on a car is nuts. But to me it is money well-spent.
You should spend money on what you have a passion for - not to enhance any kind of image.
Being a lawyer is my second career. I did pretty well in my prior life and when I got to the firm I bought a Mercedes and then my Porsche. Some people would say "wow, he buys expensive cars." But then others would say, "oh, he's a car-guy" and people would accept that. They knew that I bought my cars because that is what I am passionate about - not because I want to feel better about myself or make them feel inferior to me. If you do that, people will know and they will only think less of you for it.
My 2 cents.
You should spend money on what you have a passion for - not to enhance any kind of image.
Being a lawyer is my second career. I did pretty well in my prior life and when I got to the firm I bought a Mercedes and then my Porsche. Some people would say "wow, he buys expensive cars." But then others would say, "oh, he's a car-guy" and people would accept that. They knew that I bought my cars because that is what I am passionate about - not because I want to feel better about myself or make them feel inferior to me. If you do that, people will know and they will only think less of you for it.
My 2 cents.
You're 100% spot-on.
People occasionally say "you must do well" or "maybe Im paying you too much" - I simply tell them I have a passion for cars, no drinking/smoking/bad habits/etc and I prefer to spend all my money on my cars......
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Agreed
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Millionaire comment? Huh?
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Sorry, but you've got amazingly maladjusted priorities if you don't have at least a million dollars in near-cash assets and you're spending $150k on an automobile. I realize there are people with a $500k house with a $400k mortgage and a $150k car, but to me that seems insane.
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
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Sorry, but you've got amazingly maladjusted priorities if you don't have at least a million dollars in near-cash assets and you're spending $150k on an automobile. I realize there are people with a $500k house with a $400k mortgage and a $150k car, but to me that seems insane.
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
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Sorry, but you've got amazingly maladjusted priorities if you don't have at least a million dollars in near-cash assets and you're spending $150k on an automobile. I realize there are people with a $500k house with a $400k mortgage and a $150k car, but to me that seems insane.
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
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Sorry, but you've got amazingly maladjusted priorities if you don't have at least a million dollars in near-cash assets and you're spending $150k on an automobile. I realize there are people with a $500k house with a $400k mortgage and a $150k car, but to me that seems insane.
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
My advice, don't live in other people's realities. Stick with the things that are important to you.
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Sorry, but you've got amazingly maladjusted priorities if you don't have at least a million dollars in near-cash assets and you're spending $150k on an automobile. I realize there are people with a $500k house with a $400k mortgage and a $150k car, but to me that seems insane.
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
Bottom line: Buy a five series and thank me when you retire if you're really worrying about the costs involved in owning these cars.
I agree with the other lawyer in the thread (funny how in three years we all learned to think alike). I guess my final thought would be opportunity cost. I accept that if I tie up $300k in cars in my garage, I'm going to have fun driving, but that's $350k (by the time you talk about a $5k-$10k reserve for repairs and an extra $40k parking spot) I can't invest in other opportunities... worse, it's $300k not in my portfolio, which limits the amount I can borrow on margin if necessary. So cars must really matter to me if I care about them that much. Well, they *do* matter that much to me. But think first about whether they matter that much to you. Honestly, from your posts, it doesn't sound like it. Sure, not everything is opportunity cost -- if it were, we'd all save every penny, live in caves, and eat sawdust like Osama. But life is about compromise. Maybe you want to buy some art at Basel this year and that means you're going to keep your GT3 instead of upgrading to a GT2. Whatever it is, think in terms of compromise and you'll be happy... think in terms of impressing others and you will never be happy. That's what I've learned...
I forgot about the front end lift on the '05's. That's cool if you need it. I think the clearance on the G is fine. Not much differant than a tt and miles better than a GT3.
There is also a fair amount of marketing around improvements made in '06 on the suspension, 20HP, and shorter gears. I've tracked all of them and as a car to drive on the street I like the longer gears in the 04-05's. I could never feel the 20HP even when driven back to back.
I'm leary of Cats. There are many satisfied customers but there are also a lot of issues that seem to come up on FChat with them. The owner has had a few too many threads with apologies for my taste but again many are happy with them.
There is also a fair amount of marketing around improvements made in '06 on the suspension, 20HP, and shorter gears. I've tracked all of them and as a car to drive on the street I like the longer gears in the 04-05's. I could never feel the 20HP even when driven back to back.
I'm leary of Cats. There are many satisfied customers but there are also a lot of issues that seem to come up on FChat with them. The owner has had a few too many threads with apologies for my taste but again many are happy with them.
I am diagnosed with cancer and may not live very long because its incurable.
Most of you probably do not care, but I have to admit, buying a TT or Gallardo has always been my dream ever since I was a little boy. Now that I have the flexibility to buy one, I just cant make up my mind. I enjoy dining out and driving. Those 2 things are very important in my life. When I look at my credit card statement every month, its all related to restaurant and gas. I dont spend on anything else, no fancy watches, no fancy jewelry. I live in manhattan and I can definitely afford a bigger apartment, but I chose to live in a small one and save the extra money. One of my dreams is to drive the Lambo/Porsche across the country to California or Miami.
I rather spend 100K on a car but thats not possible for a TT cab, I need to wait another year, but how do I know I have a year to live? Only God knows.
Say I spend 140k on TT/Gallardo, I plan to keep it for 2 years then trade it in for a low end Porsche. what do you think the cost is for the 2 years of ownership? $40,000? Can you guys help me on calculating the cost/depreciation?
I am not trying to show off, but I do like the attention of driving a nice car.
Back to discussion. What exactly is E-gear, is this the same as F1 shift or BMW's SMG?
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I hope that you find what you are looking for - physically, spiritually and materially. Focus on making a difference in other people's lives. Those are the things that will outlive you no matter when you pass away.
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I researched it - it is a sequential manual as opposed to a dual clutch, so it is the same type of gearbox currently being used by Ferrari and BMW, except for the new dual-clutch in the M3.
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This thread can't be real. 
The 360 is an old car now.
The R8 is so new you can't get one.
The TT does not feel the same as an S.
The Lambo is probably as reliable as anything...it's as much Audi as anything.
What dealer is selling all 4 that you get 1% off any of them?
The 360 is an old car now.
The R8 is so new you can't get one.
The TT does not feel the same as an S.
The Lambo is probably as reliable as anything...it's as much Audi as anything.
What dealer is selling all 4 that you get 1% off any of them?