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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Tuning ?

I am planning to tune my car and heard of a place where the tune is done with in a few hours. However I don't think the tune consist of a whole recalibration change. I think it is tuning done through a third party software programe where boost and timing is being changed. So how do I know if this is reliable. The price is extremely good but I just do not know if it is safe on the long run. They say many turbos have been done but how can one tell if the tuning is reliable. The only thing I thought was I can test if there is any detonation after tuning the car. Any other suggestion? Thanks.
 
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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I suggest mailing your ECU to Stuttgart and getting an Evomsit flash. Many, many have been done with proven gains and no problems. Peace of mind.
 
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What about GIAC? I know Evoms is very popular, but, I have not come across much talk about GIAC. Anyone?
 

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There has been a lot of stuff on giac, just try a search, you'll see.
 
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Will have a look at GIAC and EVOM thanks.
 
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Sharkwerks is doing the Evomsit upgrade.

You don't mention what program you are thinking of buying so how can anyone give you feedback. UMW, Evomsit, FVD, there are a number of good programs.
 
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I had my ECU from Protomotive and i'm very happy
 
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Originally Posted by landjet
Sharkwerks is doing the Evomsit upgrade.

You don't mention what program you are thinking of buying so how can anyone give you feedback. UMW, Evomsit, FVD, there are a number of good programs.
The program is not from any of the sponsers, it is just a shop where they tune it on the spot.
 
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We recently released a ver. 2 software calibration updates to our very popular GIAC 997TT program. Our version 2 added 8-12 peak wtq, 5-15 whp (temperature/ octane dependant) gain and more area under the curve over the previous version. Peak boost is 1.4 bar with 1.2 bar of pressure throughout the upper RPM range. With the right combination of intake,IC and exhaust, this program can yield gains on pump gas of up to 88 horsepower and 78 foot-lbs of torque over the stock program. We strongly recommend an exhaust upgrade with the new programs to maintain exhaust gas temperatures and knock correction very close to that of a completely stock 997Turbo (these turbos are VERY EGT sensitive).

Additionally, all of our current 997TT files have the over rev counters re-calibrated to the new rev limiter. You will not incur any counts of ignitions when staying below our 7200 rpm limit (for manual transmission verhicles). This is truly one of the many unique advantages of a GIAC 997TT flash. Miss shifts or hammering the new rpm limiter excessively, can result in some counts, as they would on the stock program with the stock rev limit.

GIAC software always retains a full array of safety features built into the DMEs. You can see here by this dyno, this GIAC powered car was closing throttle to keep the car safe from a mismatch in hardware:




You can see here that the boost was going out of control (the lower red line) due to this mismatch closing the throttle and retarding the boost as a safety measure. We support a great deal of different hardware configurations and kits (such as AWE's 750R kit) and all of them are well regarded by their users. Feel free to PM me with any questions that you might have regarding our software calibrations and I will be happy to assist you.
 
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Originally Posted by Austin@GIAC


We recently released a ver. 2 software calibration updates to our very popular GIAC 997TT program. Our version 2 added 8-12 peak wtq, 5-15 whp (temperature/ octane dependant) gain and more area under the curve over the previous version. Peak boost is 1.4 bar with 1.2 bar of pressure throughout the upper RPM range. With the right combination of intake,IC and exhaust, this program can yield gains on pump gas of up to 88 horsepower and 78 foot-lbs of torque over the stock program. We strongly recommend an exhaust upgrade with the new programs to maintain exhaust gas temperatures and knock correction very close to that of a completely stock 997Turbo (these turbos are VERY EGT sensitive).

Additionally, all of our current 997TT files have the over rev counters re-calibrated to the new rev limiter. You will not incur any counts of ignitions when staying below our 7200 rpm limit (for manual transmission verhicles). This is truly one of the many unique advantages of a GIAC 997TT flash. Miss shifts or hammering the new rpm limiter excessively, can result in some counts, as they would on the stock program with the stock rev limit.

GIAC software always retains a full array of safety features built into the DMEs. You can see here by this dyno, this GIAC powered car was closing throttle to keep the car safe from a mismatch in hardware:




You can see here that the boost was going out of control (the lower red line) due to this mismatch closing the throttle and retarding the boost as a safety measure. We support a great deal of different hardware configurations and kits (such as AWE's 750R kit) and all of them are well regarded by their users. Feel free to PM me with any questions that you might have regarding our software calibrations and I will be happy to assist you.

Is there a GIAC dealer in Dubai by any chance? Thanks for the support.
 
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Is there a GIAC dealer in Dubai by any chance? Thanks for the support.
Porsche Boy,

We need the computer for 2 hours for the reflash. Meaning it would ship back to you the day we received it.

I have made it very easy for our overseas clients to work with us.

Email me your shipping address and I will provide you a full quote.

Mike@AWE-Tuning.com
 
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Originally Posted by Austin@GIAC


We recently released a ver. 2 software calibration updates to our very popular GIAC 997TT program. Our version 2 added 8-12 peak wtq, 5-15 whp (temperature/ octane dependant) gain and more area under the curve over the previous version. Peak boost is 1.4 bar with 1.2 bar of pressure throughout the upper RPM range. With the right combination of intake,IC and exhaust, this program can yield gains on pump gas of up to 88 horsepower and 78 foot-lbs of torque over the stock program. We strongly recommend an exhaust upgrade with the new programs to maintain exhaust gas temperatures and knock correction very close to that of a completely stock 997Turbo (these turbos are VERY EGT sensitive).

Additionally, all of our current 997TT files have the over rev counters re-calibrated to the new rev limiter. You will not incur any counts of ignitions when staying below our 7200 rpm limit (for manual transmission verhicles). This is truly one of the many unique advantages of a GIAC 997TT flash. Miss shifts or hammering the new rpm limiter excessively, can result in some counts, as they would on the stock program with the stock rev limit.

GIAC software always retains a full array of safety features built into the DMEs. You can see here by this dyno, this GIAC powered car was closing throttle to keep the car safe from a mismatch in hardware:




You can see here that the boost was going out of control (the lower red line) due to this mismatch closing the throttle and retarding the boost as a safety measure. We support a great deal of different hardware configurations and kits (such as AWE's 750R kit) and all of them are well regarded by their users. Feel free to PM me with any questions that you might have regarding our software calibrations and I will be happy to assist you.
Austin, does the giac change in sport mode at all, all your graphs are in regular mode I assume, do you correct for crank hp?
I further assume these gains would be similar on a DynoDynamics awd dyno, I understand it's similar to a mustang. tia
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
Austin, does the giac change in sport mode at all, all your graphs are in regular mode I assume, do you correct for crank hp?
I further assume these gains would be similar on a DynoDynamics awd dyno, I understand it's similar to a mustang. tia
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both sport and regular mode are changed.
 
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Hello Austin,

Probably like many other Turbo owners, I am split between GIAC and EVOMSit. I am comfortable with the great reputation of both companies, but do have a personal preference for GIAC because of its ability to switch back to lesser power programs.

I notice EVOMSit allows some trial period with full refund, is there a way I could do that with GIAC? I actually am local to you and willing to do whatever is necessary.

Of course, I have a huge internet reputation to protect (kidding, but really, check out my numerous postings), so this is a serious inquiry. Not tire kicking, nor playing game here.
 


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