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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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PCCB break question

What is the reason for the thin metal plates that are sitting between pad dampers and the back of the break pads? I’m planning to replace my pads next week and was wondering if perhaps it’s better to remove them completely. I heard that sometimes those thin plates may be the reason for the break squeak at low speeds breaking. .
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The dampers are sitting in the pistons and are attached with adhesive to thin metal plate. The break pad sits in the thin metal plate. My question is can I attach the break pad directly to the dampers without the metal plate in between? Thank you
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subscribed! hate the squeeking!
 
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These are the shim plates to centralise the pads and prevent squeeking. Yoyu need to get a new shim set from Porsche or Brembo & they need to be installed and should be coated with high temp 'grease' made by Wurtz.
Are you changing to Pagid pads? RS29 work well with PCCB's.
 
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These are the shim plates to centralise the pads and prevent squeeking. Yoyu need to get a new shim set from Porsche or Brembo & they need to be installed and should be coated with high temp 'grease' made by Wurtz.
Are you changing to Pagid pads? RS29 work well with PCCB's.
I’ve already ordered the pads they should be better then the older ones. Do you know if the grease com in package with the pads? Also do I put any grease between the thin plate and pads?I know the dampers come with the adhesive.
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Originally Posted by slawek
I’ve already ordered the pads they should be better then the older ones. Do you know if the grease com in package with the pads? Also do I put any grease between the thin plate and pads?I know the dampers come with the adhesive.
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Trying to be helpful... you will probably come across better and receive more responses if you spell "Brake" correctly.

Breaks are for tired workers and what happens to brittle bones.
Brakes stop cars.

Peace, and congrats on having a car with PCCB which are fantastic.
 
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Think the days are long gone when you used to get a satchet of grease with new pads. I misspelled Wurtz, should be Wurth. Don't know about USA but in Europe they sell to trade only. They call it Carbon Brake Service kit and comes with cleaner, etc. Check internet.
And yes, I always put grease between pad & shims.
 
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Trying to be helpful... you will probably come across better and receive more responses if you spell "Brake" correctly.

Breaks are for tired workers and what happens to brittle bones.
Brakes stop cars.

Peace, and congrats on having a car with PCCB which are fantastic.
Thanks Sayboy that was very nice of you to point this out, I guess I have a long way to go and a lot to learn still.
 

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Think the days are long gone when you used to get a satchet of grease with new pads. I misspelled Wurtz, should be Wurth. Don't know about USA but in Europe they sell to trade only. They call it Carbon Brake Service kit and comes with cleaner, etc. Check internet.
And yes, I always put grease between pad & shims.
Thank you so much Hog that was exactly the answer I was looking for.
 
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Originally Posted by Dual Cams
"Hog" already answered your question and his 100% correct!

The dampers are a must on Porsches.

At the dealerships we see many customers who complaints about brake squeaks after brake replacement at another shop because they re-used the damper plates. Keep in mind these are high performance brakes and is your safety. Spending the extra dollar amount of these damper plates are better than getting these loud squeaking noise everytime you pulling up to a valet or a stop sign.

congrats on your first set of PCCB brake pads...???
Thanks Dual Cams I’ve ordered pads ,front and rear including, dumper set, sensor cables and all necessary hardware My ML 63 AMG have big Brambo braks but the access and setup it is completely different from the one on Porsche.
 
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Ok. So I did my front brakes today it was an easy job, I spend most of the time on cleaning of the silicone from the pistons on the inside of calipers. Imagine my surprise when I discover that there were no dampers , but instead some type of silicon that was use to hold the pads and most of it already loose . Anyway put the new dampers in, use "special paste" between the thin metal plate (heat shield) and back of the pads. Drove the car and now everything is very quiet and back to normal.
Oh I forgot to tell you guys that my wonderful dealer in NYC. quoted me over $3000 for the front and rear break job.<O></O>
Tomorrow I’m doing the rear ones
Thanks for all your help. .
 
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