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Seems like there is a difference of opinion as to condition the non seat leather in the car. Good question? Time for some internet research and another post after the research has been completed!
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Originally Posted by The Bogg
Loving it. Just put on the AWE exhaust. Lots more sound effects.
Do you have any problem with increased drone with the new exhaust? I have debated throwing on an aftermarket option, but didn't want to turn the car into something unlivable for more than short trips. I am debating getting a laser jammer/detector installed, and working on getting the dice ipod set-up.
-Getz
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-Getz
Originally Posted by getz
Does anyone with the leather over the PCM have experience with the dice ipod install? If they have to remove the head unit, I am worried this may jack up the fitment of the leather piece.-Getz
I did put a Tooki in. No problem with the the leather sides, they just slip out and go in easy.
Hope that helps
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ditioning.html
Originally Posted by The Bogg
c'mon over to the exhaust thread...https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ditioning.html
Will do, thanks for the link.
-Getz
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Originally Posted by PCH
Certainly hasn't been my experience. I've conditioned all the leather in all my cars without issue. Anyone I have ever spoken with in the high end upholstery or restoration business has advised UV protection and conditioning ESPECIALLY on the dash or under the windscreen. It's my understanding that unprotected and or untreated leather over time loses its elasticity and will ultimately shrink.
'The leather Porsche uses on the dash contains almost no moisture - it is specifically dried so there will be less "movement" as it goes through the big temperature changes that can occur on the dash. Introducing moisture back into the leather by using a conditioner will cause the leather to "move" with temperature changes and possibly break loose from the surface it is glued to. Here's what Porsche has to say about the leather used on the dash...
"All leather is not the same. We work with classic upholstery leather, but we also work with low-shrinkage leather. The instrument paneling, for example, can get extremely hot in summer. If the material starting tightening, what would that look like after a while? So we're talking about leather whose residual moisture has been largly removed, which means that it won't be able to shrink later." (Christophorus, No. 276 January 1999)
Here's the quick thinking: the issue of 'it will dry out and crack' does not apply - the factory dries this leather very differently so that it will stay in its shape and position for a long time. Adding moisture to this leather on the dash will create looseness, and could create bubbles or movement you won't want.
Now, if you are in TX, FL or So Cal, and leave the car in the sun every day, that may be a different story. But I have adhered to the above since my first Porsche over 12 years ago. I never conditioned the dash. At time of sale, the interiors were flawless (as were exteriors).
Do what you like. This is just reference material.
Eric, good info. but that quote is from 1999. Do you think porsche is handling leather the same way? I was talking with matt Zakarian and he was also interested in looking into this some more.
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"All leather is not the same. We work with classic upholstery leather, but we also work with low-shrinkage leather. The instrument paneling, for example, can get extremely hot in summer. If the material starting tightening, what would that look like after a while? So we're talking about leather whose residual moisture has been largly removed, which means that it won't be able to shrink later." (Christophorus, No. 276 January 1999)
Here's the quick thinking: the issue of 'it will dry out and crack' does not apply - the factory dries this leather very differently so that it will stay in its shape and position for a long time. Adding moisture to this leather on the dash will create looseness, and could create bubbles or movement you won't want.
Now, if you are in TX, FL or So Cal, and leave the car in the sun every day, that may be a different story. But I have adhered to the above since my first Porsche over 12 years ago. I never conditioned the dash. At time of sale, the interiors were flawless (as were exteriors).
Do what you like. This is just reference material.
Great info. Do you just dust and brief damp wipe yours? I am inclinde to only treat the seating surface with conditioner, etc.Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
'The leather Porsche uses on the dash contains almost no moisture - it is specifically dried so there will be less "movement" as it goes through the big temperature changes that can occur on the dash. Introducing moisture back into the leather by using a conditioner will cause the leather to "move" with temperature changes and possibly break loose from the surface it is glued to. Here's what Porsche has to say about the leather used on the dash..."All leather is not the same. We work with classic upholstery leather, but we also work with low-shrinkage leather. The instrument paneling, for example, can get extremely hot in summer. If the material starting tightening, what would that look like after a while? So we're talking about leather whose residual moisture has been largly removed, which means that it won't be able to shrink later." (Christophorus, No. 276 January 1999)
Here's the quick thinking: the issue of 'it will dry out and crack' does not apply - the factory dries this leather very differently so that it will stay in its shape and position for a long time. Adding moisture to this leather on the dash will create looseness, and could create bubbles or movement you won't want.
Now, if you are in TX, FL or So Cal, and leave the car in the sun every day, that may be a different story. But I have adhered to the above since my first Porsche over 12 years ago. I never conditioned the dash. At time of sale, the interiors were flawless (as were exteriors).
Do what you like. This is just reference material.
-Getz