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Old May 15, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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First, awareness IMHO is the key to safety.


Second, you bring a TT to a fast food joint and are pissed people parked next to you and are checking out your car. You want the whole parking lot? Well you can't have it; learn to deal with the attention these cars bring or go thru drive thru.


And your in NE...how many of these gems are really around.


Heres some more constructive advice...

don't talk trash to people unless your ready to back it up quickly. Those teens can throw bottles or key your car and be off in a flash. And unless you want to chase them both and leave your beautiful car behind...keep your wits about you and your attitude in check. In some situations cool heads are better than brute strength.
 
Old May 15, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by paneraiwatches
Wow you really sound like a nice guy





NOT
and people wonder why nice cars get keyed and vandalized. There is a time and a place to vent (you said you had a long day at work and got "annoyed") but I don't think lashing out at kids in a McD's parking lot in your own neighborhood was the best idea. Seeing as there aren't many Porsches around that area, I would be really careful where I park now. There is a high probability they will see your car again at some point and might want to have some "fun".
 
Old May 16, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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You can't control people in public. If people want to take a picture, so be it. Are you concerned about your license number or something? I can memorize your plate in 1 second. No pic needed. Color of the car? Model? Come on...

I frequently see people stopping in parking lots to peer in my windows or take pictures of my car. If I'm headed back to my car, I usually say something friendly. If they show genuine interest in the car and I have the time, I'll answer their questions. If they are obvious enthusiasts, I sometimes take them for a quick spin. I'm blessed with the means to do and have things that 99.9% of the people on this planet will never experience, and I know it. If I can share a bit of that by showing a minute of respect to another human being, then I will. I'm in no way obligated to, and neither are you. However, a little humility might help you to realize that many people have dreams about your car, and seeing one in the parking lot is probably the closest they'll ever get to one.

I am not naive enough to think that all of the people I encounter have good intentions? No. That's why I'm a firm believer in the right to bear arms... I just feel that it's better for everyone, including myself, if I speak softly but carry a big stick.

The car is just a possession, and if someone else wants it, there's nothing that you or I can really do to stop that from happening. I rely on alarms and other passive means of deterrance, and so should you. But when you start impacting the lives of others with your paranoia, as you did when you 'confronted' people for looking at your car in a public place, you've crossed a line in my opinion.
 
Old May 16, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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completely inappropriate and non-constructive...you show the type of person that you are here, and a detractor to a public forum where people are supposed to share ideas and discussions...obviously you dont adhere those thoughts or would wouldnt name-call and beligerant to someone you have never met

oh and btw, no god complex here...i have been judged by my peers to be who i am in my field, so based on that you are not likely to find many better...but good luck
 

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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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That is a great Vid. Brings back memories of when I was about 10. I watched a Chuck Norris movie named "Good Guys Wear Black", he drove a Porsche in it and I have been hooked ever since and said I would own one one day.
 

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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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how this member reacted in his particular situation does not warrant judgement and namecalling...get it back to topic please
 
Old May 16, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Doc-

You are driving your car in a public place, you have no expectation of privacy. People have every right to look, take pictures, etc.

The line is crossed when they TOUCH the car, or verbally abuse/annoy you. HOWEVER, telling them to not do what they have a right to do (see above) is NOT wise. I'd say if you did that, they have the right to counter with 'don't be a dick, YOU are in public".

Just my opinion.

Getting stalked, getting a car stolen, vandalized- are all very different from people appreciating a nice car. You do not own the light reflecting off of the car and traveling to their eyes (or cameras).

I'd be less concerned with the overt attention in a parking lot- it is the hidden and covert attention that is dangerous.

Good topic

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Old May 16, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Gentlemen,

Have none of us ever heard of extenuating circumstances?

To my mind, it is obvious that handdoc was deeply affected/troubled by MrWhite's misfortune. (handdoc, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
That story being fresh in the back of his mind, and having suffered through a tough day, his nerves were kinda frayed and on edge.
He walked out to that parking lot and saw something that made him assess the situation as intimidating/threatening.
He reacted to it the way he did.

Now, would I normally react the way handdoc did? Probably not.

Is there no way that I would ever react that way under any circumstance? I cannot honestly say that.

Is there anyone here that can truly say he was never guilty of even the tiniest bit of misplaced aggression? Never even snapped at somebody without cause? I doubt it.

Now, to me, the proof of basic decency is that the good doctor later questioned his own actions and posted here, on open forum, laying himself bare to all of us and asking us to evaluate what he did and whether or not we felt he was being reasonable.

I don't know about you guys, but to me, that, in and of itself, is a demonstration of decency, humility (definitely no God complex), and strength of character.

I am not ashamed to say it, but by voluntarily exposing himself to our cumulative critique, handdoc has shown himself to be a better man than most, myself included.
 

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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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So, yesterday I posted how I've had very nice experiences with owners of other exotic cars, and How Ive been offered to drive a Vanquish S, Ferrari 612, and a California. All because the owners were so nice and genuine, and really noticed how much we enjoy cars. After posting this, we saw this beautiful SLS in DC and couldnt help but look at it. The owner came out, and started talking to us, threw us the keys...let us sit in it, and just chatted it up with us. Here are some pix/videos to show you all how much being nice to the right people makes their day. We own exotic cars, we are no strangers to them....but the owner didnt know this until after we talked some more, he was just being an awesome enthusiast. By the way he picked up the car from the docks the day before and this was his first day out with the car.


Pic of my Uncle sitting in the car.




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaqwhqcTynU
 

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Old May 16, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RaminGTI20
So, yesterday I posted how I've had very nice experiences with owners of other exotic cars, and How Ive been offered to drive a Vanquish S, Ferrari 612, and a California. All because the owners were so nice and genuine, and really noticed how much we enjoy cars. After posting this, we saw this beautiful SLS in DC and couldnt help but look at it. The owner came out, and started talking to us, threw us the keys...let us sit in it, and just chatted it up with us.
Sounds like you live in Pleasantville! You're a lucky guy to have had those nice experiences. I don't know anyone that would let an ogling stranger into the car but I bet that you come across as a real nice guy in person in order for the owners to feel that comfortable.
 
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Good post, sums it up in a fairly neutral manner imho. Rep points for sure!

Originally Posted by k_ddsl
Gentlemen,

Have none of us ever heard of extenuating circumstances?

To my mind, it is obvious that handdoc was deeply affected/troubled by MrWhite's misfortune. (handdoc, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
That story being fresh in the back of his mind, and having suffered through a tough day, his nerves were kinda frayed and on edge.
He walked out to that parking lot and saw something that made him assess the situation as intimidating/threatening.
He reacted to it the way he did.

Now, would I normally react the way handdoc did? Probably not.

Is there no way that I would ever react that way under any circumstance? I cannot honestly say that.

Is there anyone here that can truly say he was never guilty of even the tiniest bit of misplaced aggression? Never even snapped at somebody without cause? I doubt it.

Now, to me, the proof of basic decency is that the good doctor later questioned his own actions and posted here, on open forum, laying himself bare to all of us and asking us to evaluate what he did and whether or not we felt he was being reasonable.

I don't know about you guys, but to me, that, in and of itself, is a demonstration of decency, humility (definitely no God complex), and strength of character.

I am not ashamed to say it, but by voluntarily exposing himself to our cumulative critique, handdoc has shown himself to be a better man than most, myself included.
 
Old May 16, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by k_ddsl
Gentlemen,

Have none of us ever heard of extenuating circumstances?

To my mind, it is obvious that handdoc was deeply affected/troubled by MrWhite's misfortune. (handdoc, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
That story being fresh in the back of his mind, and having suffered through a tough day, his nerves were kinda frayed and on edge.
He walked out to that parking lot and saw something that made him assess the situation as intimidating/threatening.
He reacted to it the way he did.

Now, would I normally react the way handdoc did? Probably not.

Is there no way that I would ever react that way under any circumstance? I cannot honestly say that.

Is there anyone here that can truly say he was never guilty of even the tiniest bit of misplaced aggression? Never even snapped at somebody without cause? I doubt it.

Now, to me, the proof of basic decency is that the good doctor later questioned his own actions and posted here, on open forum, laying himself bare to all of us and asking us to evaluate what he did and whether or not we felt he was being reasonable.

I don't know about you guys, but to me, that, in and of itself, is a demonstration of decency, humility (definitely no God complex), and strength of character.

I am not ashamed to say it, but by voluntarily exposing himself to our cumulative critique, handdoc has shown himself to be a better man than most, myself included.
wow, thx for the kind words...i would agree with you that for me this was an extenuating circumstance of an event...hence the reason i posted
 
Old May 16, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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