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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vividracing
TT Dude - Lets not ruin the OPs thread. We are not apples to apples here. Climate/trans/car/mods. But search any dyno I have independently done here on the 997.1 or 997.2 Turbo and you will see.
Agreed. I'm OK with differing opinions. No need to prolong this discussion.
 
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Do not do a WOT run without warming up your car.

- bob
It is warm over here don't worry
What i ment is don't run it too much because with high IAT the computer will start pull the timing.
 
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TTdude
Why have sport mode then? Just so you can switch between low and top end performance? Doesn't make sense to me. Sport should be more aggressive all the way through. If not, then the system needs optimizing.
Agree totally.

It is logical that SC mode deliver more power and acceleration everywhere over and above what normal mode delivers. If it doesnt then the higher mode defeats its own purpose.

The numbers posted by Karim indict the car is faster and happier in stock tune from the get go. The gains shown in the upper speed range are surprisingly very minimal.

Given the .2 car is definately not slow in stock tune, i believe Mdrums has made some points worthy of attention and, consideration.
 
Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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Here is the write up we did in testing the 997.2TT Softronic flash using non sport, sport, sport plus mode. - http://www.vividracing.com/forums/pr...7-2-turbo.html
 
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Gents,

My apologies for not responding earlier.

There are many valid suggestions proposed by you. I will be out of town for the next week or so.

Upon my return, I will be running several tests and and logging data with PBox and Durametric.

I will post my PBox runs on this thread but, for proprietary reasons having to do with the tune itself, I have agreed not to publicly post the Durametric logs of the runs.

I want to express my sincere thanks to everyone who has taken the time to comment and provide suggestions.

You 6speeders are elite!
 
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hmmm .. embarrassing numbers for softronic THEY should fix these numbers ASAP
 
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hmmm .. embarrassing numbers for softronic THEY should fix these numbers ASAP
Softronic tuned car was run in 101.3F weather. Without reducing EGT and IATs no tune is going to improve his times. Karim needs to give up his car to someone who lives in a cooler place...like Wisconsin, where the winters run down to -25F.

Hmmm...who do I know who lives in Wisconsin...Oh I know...me!
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
Softronic tuned car was run in 101.3F weather. Without reducing EGT and IATs no tune is going to improve his times. Karim needs to give up his car to someone who lives in a cooler place...like Wisconsin, where the winters run down to -25F.

Hmmm...who do I know who lives in Wisconsin...Oh I know...me!
LOL. A "cooler place" is somewhere like L.A. (average temp Dec-Mar +68F). -25F is colder than a witch's tit. And I know just the person in L.A. too.

Anyhow, props to you for even posting and sharing your data, whether suboptimal or not. I'm sure you'll get it all worked out in the end.
 
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Softronic tuned car was run in 101.3F weather. Without reducing EGT and IATs no tune is going to improve his times. Karim needs to give up his car to someone who lives in a cooler place...like Wisconsin, where the winters run down to -25F
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Running in such a temp believe me bro no offence but doesn't deserve a reward
numbers are un comparable with any tuner out there
 

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Originally Posted by bbywu
Karim needs to give up his car to someone who lives in a cooler place...like Wisconsin, where the winters run down to -25F.

Hmmm...who do I know who lives in Wisconsin...Oh I know...me!
Originally Posted by TTdude
LOL. A "cooler place" is somewhere like L.A. (average temp Dec-Mar +68F). -25F is colder than a witch's tit. And I know just the person in L.A. too.
Having that car, and having our weather: heat, sandstorms, or in this case both:

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Originally Posted by TTdude
Anyhow, props to you for even posting and sharing your data, whether suboptimal or not. I'm sure you'll get it all worked out in the end.
Thanks bro.
 

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I got back to Kuwait a few days back.

I went out for some runs and Durametric logging.

Ambient was 95*F and Humidity was 49%.

I tried launching with many different combinations.
Normal mode, sport, and sport +.

I also tried different methods to launch:
Brake/gas launch at 2K rpm, 3K rpm...
Launch control, etc...

I will not post the PBox runs, unless asked to do so, as they are very similar results to what I already posted.

Conclusion so far:
It seems that whenever I get solid times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times suffer.
Conversely, whenever I get weaker times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times improve.

This is quite unexpected and, frankly, very frustrating.

I am in continuous contact with Scott Slauson and have sent him the PBox and Durametric log files. Hopefully he can do something about this...
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by k_ddsl
I got back to Kuwait a few days back.

I went out for some runs and Durametric logging.

Ambient was 95*F and Humidity was 49%.

I tried launching with many different combinations.
Normal mode, sport, and sport +.

I also tried different methods to launch:
Brake/gas launch at 2K rpm, 3K rpm...
Launch control, etc...

I will not post the PBox runs, unless asked to do so, as they are very similar results to what I already posted.

Conclusion so far:
It seems that whenever I get solid times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times suffer.
Conversely, whenever I get weaker times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times improve.

This is quite unexpected and, frankly, very frustrating.

I am in continuous contact with Scott Slauson and have sent him the PBox and Durametric log files. Hopefully he can do something about this...
So reading between the lines, stock is looking pretty good.

No sense flogging a dead horse.....oops, sorry shadowfax . Didnt mean you .
 
Old Jul 14, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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Sounds like something is wrong with your car-----or the p-box.. Anyone with a softronic tune knows the car is WAY FASTER than stock--WAY FASTER....

Everytime I drive my car, Im blown away by the difference from stock.. (Thanks to Craig at RPM North)!!!
 

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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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Maybe try flashing it back to stock then re flashing it again just to be 100%. Maybe something didnt go through quite right??
 
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Originally Posted by k_ddsl
I am in continuous contact with Scott Slauson and have sent him the PBox and Durametric log files. Hopefully he can do something about this...
I would ask for a more aggressive file (ie more timing or boost). Of course he may tell you its not safe to go there. In that case I would add some hardware like an intake or exhaust, if you havent already, and retune with that.
 


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