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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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hmmmm

oki cargraphic is good and better than Softronic .. !

but still i think the softronic can't make good numbers like techart and cargraphic
 
Old Jul 15, 2010 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by speed21
So reading between the lines, stock is looking pretty good.
Stock is indeed good. Softronic should, and hopefully will be better.

Scott Slauson's follow up on this matter is first rate.

I screwed up the Durametric logs so I need to repeat the tests. I will also try to get it on a Dyno and log data on the dyno as well. I will send Scott all the info when I have it. I am certain that when all is said and done, the Softronic tune will get the results I am hoping for.

Originally Posted by speed21
No sense flogging a dead horse.....oops, sorry shadowfax . Didnt mean you .
Shhhhh... Quietly now, you'll wake her from her slumber.

Originally Posted by chemicalman
Sounds like something is wrong with your car-----or the p-box.. Anyone with a softronic tune knows the car is WAY FASTER than stock--WAY FASTER....

Everytime I drive my car, Im blown away by the difference from stock.. (Thanks to Craig at RPM North)!!!
No mate. Nothing wrong with either the car or the PBox. Both are fine.
You gotta remember that this is not a .1TT, it's a .2.
It hasn't yet had it's share of testing and development and optimization and may not be as mature as the .1 tune.
I'm guessing Scott needs to tweak the tune for our conditions here.

Originally Posted by speed21
Maybe try flashing it back to stock then re flashing it again just to be 100%. Maybe something didnt go through quite right??
I re-read the tuned file and sent it to Scott and he compared it with the tuned file he sent me and it checks out 100%. The car is correctly flashed.

Originally Posted by MBailey
I would ask for a more aggressive file (ie more timing or boost). Of course he may tell you its not safe to go there. In that case I would add some hardware like an intake or exhaust, if you havent already, and retune with that.
I want to do my upgrades incrementally.
I need to see a marked improvement in the car's performance over stock as a result of the tune first before I add other upgrades. If not, than the value of the tune is called into question.
I am confident that Scott will work it out. It will take some time and some effort on both our parts: myself with the test runs and the durametric data logging, and Scott with the analysis and the tweaking. Ultimately, it'll get there.

With the level of support and commitment I am getting from Scott, I am not worried. He's been exceptional so far.
 
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Originally Posted by looolz
hmmmm

oki cargraphic is good and better than Softronic .. !

but still i think the softronic can't make good numbers like techart and cargraphic
Thanks for your input bro.

I think it is way too early to start drawing conclusions like that.
I have spoken with Scott Slauson on the phone and we have exchanged numerous emails.
The man is very knowledgeable. I have reason to believe that with a bit of time and effort, the tune will get there.

Let's not jump to conclusions until the proverbial "fat lady" does her thing!
 
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Originally Posted by k_ddsl
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No mate. Nothing wrong with either the car or the PBox. Both are fine.
You gotta remember that this is not a .1TT, it's a .2.
It hasn't yet had it's share of testing and development and optimization and may not be as mature as the .1 tune.
I'm guessing Scott needs to tweak the tune for our conditions here.
I stand corrected... I am indeed talking about my 997.1
 
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Originally Posted by k_ddsl
I got back to Kuwait a few days back.

I went out for some runs and Durametric logging.

Ambient was 95*F and Humidity was 49%.

I tried launching with many different combinations.
Normal mode, sport, and sport +.

I also tried different methods to launch:
Brake/gas launch at 2K rpm, 3K rpm...
Launch control, etc...

I will not post the PBox runs, unless asked to do so, as they are very similar results to what I already posted.

Conclusion so far:
It seems that whenever I get solid times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times suffer.
Conversely, whenever I get weaker times 0-100 kph, my 100-200 kph times improve.

This is quite unexpected and, frankly, very frustrating.

I am in continuous contact with Scott Slauson and have sent him the PBox and Durametric log files. Hopefully he can do something about this...
What way of launchiing the car did give you the best times?
 
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Originally Posted by artur777
What way of launchiing the car did give you the best times?
Best 0-100 time in Sport+ mode using Launch Control. 100-200 time suffered.

Best 100-200 time in Sport mode with brake/gas sidestep brake around 2.5K RPM. 0-100 time suffered.
 
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Small update:

Just completed the PBox runs and the Durametric logs that Scott Slauson requested from me.

I made a total of 6 runs as follows:
2x runs in Sport + using launch control, one with PSM on and one off
2x runs in Sport with brake/fuel launch at 3k RPM, again PSM on & PSM off
2x normal mode same as above

All runs were individually logged with Durametric with the following parameters being monitored:
1- Engine Speed
2- Engine Load
3- Lambda Bank 1
4- Timing Angle
5- IATs
6- MAF

All info was sent to Scott and I am waiting for his feedback.

Thanks for following on this thread.

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Forgot to mention:

Ambients were a cool 90.5*F
No humidity to speak of.
 
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vividracing
Show us the 60-130 times?
I'm also interested in a 60-130 time. Thanks
 
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any updates?
 
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Originally Posted by MikeWads
I'm also interested in a 60-130 time. Thanks
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any updates?
Thanks for the interest guys.

I am out of town for the moment. Will be back tonight.

I will post a couple of PBox runs that I did about a week ago when attempting to log with Durametric.

My best 0-62 run was 3.28 seconds.
My best 60-130 run was 8.58 seconds. (Different run)
My best 1/4 mile trap was 11.26 seconds.

While those results might seem OK for a car with just a tune and a BMC air filter for a 997.1 TT, both Scott and I agree that the .2TT should show better results than that. The biggest disappointment is the near no-improvement at all in the 0-62 time. My best in stock form was 3.3 and in hotter weather than my best in tuned form (3.28). Also, quarter mile trap times did not improve much over stock.

Scott has a couple of ideas of how to correct the problem but he needs Durametric logs.

Apparently, however, from the Durametric files I sent him, Durametric is unable to capture timing and some other data that Scott requires to re-tune and work out the kinks. This problem is specific to the new DFI ECUs on the .2 Turbo and Turbo S.

He says that Durametric should have the problem ironed out within a couple of weeks, at which time I will re-do the runs and log the data again to send to Scott.

Hopefully, I should have a re-tuned file within 3 weeks.

In the meantime, I am about to place an order for intercoolers as that has demonstrated itself to be an absolute must for us in Kuwait.

I am debating whether to install the I/Cs before or after working out the software issue. I think I will wait to install the I/Cs just to isolate the performance improvements attributable to each component separately.

I'll post the actual PBox results very soon.
 

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ICs will help you a lot in your climate conditions...What brand of ICs will you buy?
 
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Originally Posted by skandalis447
I was reffering to my cars tune (APR) where overboost is deleted from sport function...I am not in position to know how each tune operates...
sorry to jump into post... but i just picked up a 2007 911 turbo with APR exhaust and ecu tune and noticed you have apr tune.... i have been trying to figure out the whole boost in sport mode thing because i really havent noticed a difference when putting it in sport mode... i didnt no that they disable this function. did u ask them to do that or thats just normally what they do?? i contacted them and they told me that its customer preference??? i aslo asked them about changeing between programs with the cruise contol.. number of blinks that correspond with tune... the answer was the same... customer preference... how is yours set up??? sorry so many questions??? just new to this.
 


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