Scott,though you have looked at the data on my car what you are not taking into account is that the run where the sunroof blew off (the one you have the data for)was only about 975 whp as I have stated several times before.We were only at 26 lbs on that run whereas the car makes 1097 at 30 lbs.Driving plays a big part of it and being able to drive this car to 250 will be the biggest obsticle,not the power.Scott, can u post the two files from my 2 Texas mile passes that you are referring to?I would like to see the difference.

 

Joe,

I think part of the problem is the myriad hp numbers that seem to get thrown around. Some say over 1100 rwhp, some say over 1k, you say 975, Todd says 930. It's very confusing.

Anyway, you know that I have ALWAYS been behind you 100%. The same hold true now. I want you to hit 250 badly! Again, I just think for anyone to hit 250, they need more than 1200 rwhp, regardless of the car, tuner or driver.

Anyway, here is the overlay. Red line is the old one, blue line is the new one.

At 4,946 feet, you were traveling 2.5 mph faster on the second run than you were on the first. Your previous 100-150 mph time was 3.87. The latter was 3.82.

Based on the data, I'm guessing you would have hit 233 mph at the mile point if your sunroof hadn't caved in. Still the fastest proven street 993, 996, or 997 on planet earth.

 

I understand how this can be confusing because there are 2 different cars,3 different setups and 2 races.Let me see if I can clarify.....for the March 2009 Texas Mile my car made 920awhp the night before the mile and not a stitch more.At the time we did not know it but we actually had a bad turbo.We later discovered we had a bolt stuck inside the turbine housing that had nicked the turbine wheel.The car weighed right at 3210 lbs as weighed on Evoms scales.Fast forward to the Oct 09 mile..the car was making 1097 awhp at 30lbs of boost.I probably could have run more;-):-) but this was as far as it was tested(We needed the motor to live for the event)The motor was tested in 2psi increments so I knew at 26 lbs it made 976awhp.On the first of only 2 passes of the entire event I ran the car at 30 psi up til about 150 when I eased off it to check the chute operation.The car was very darty under power(whether due to the power or conditions I'm not sure)so I asked for it to be turned down to 26 for the second run.I think the car is capable of best pass in ideal conditions with a good driver 240 mph.Others can disagree or agree but this is just my feeling from what I have seen after running this event a few times.

Now as far as Todds 997(the one in question here ....I do agree that it will probably take about 1300 whp to do it in the 997 but I also think so does Evoms;-)

 

3210 w/o driver??? who drove and how much do they weigh??

Mike

 

3210 without driver....I weigh about 200lbs

 

3410.. Pretty Heavy still to go that speed.. I wasn't far off my 3500lb estimation..

 

Got it. Things are definitely clearer and easier to understand now. 1097 awhp is what I thought you were running when your roof caved in, but everything makes more sense now. Thank you very much for that post.

Well okay, then. I don't know where 1200 whp came from, but I am certainly open to 1300 possibly being enough. 1200..no way, 1300...maybe, 1400...definitely! Either way, I'm rooting for EVOMS to do it.

 

You and I both know you were originally talking about the car weight, not car weight plus driver. Nice try!

 

I always talk weight with driver, if i misquoted i apologize.. I noted eddie was 2850 w/ driver and 3410 for 996 would be HUGE @ 560lbs difference.. and narrowbody as well.. Let me know how your car feels 4 deep vs. you alone..

Mike

 

Good luck guys! This will be an awesome build no matter what!

 

[quote=Divexxtreme;2971911]No problem,Scott.

 

$hit. Where have I been? I take a few day holiday from 6speed and I come back to this? Thanks guys for the feedback and open discussion. After reading through all of the comments there has been a lot of really great and useful information posted here. Thank you! Though our goal is 250 MPH, our #1 goal is safety. We are making progress with the cage and I will post more photos later today. I do think that 250 MPH is something that is realistic. What also became very obvious after reading through some of these posts is this is not an exact science. There are SOOOOO many factors that need to be considered. We have learned from previous 1 mile events and we have to use this experience to help us achieve our goal. We have a lot of work to do with the car to be able to use the power that we are generating. Traction is a HUGE issue. My car now making 1200 WHP is way slower in the 1/4 mile than when my car was making 850 WHP. Aero is a huge factor as well is weight. As we get further along with our final plan for each, I will post up the details. Thanks again for the great dialog about this, as well as everyone’s support

 

If I was shooting for this goal I would be at the local 1/4 mile strip shooting for a 170+ trap every week before I showed up to the mile event, cause we all know any car going in the upper 240's should be in that mph bracket. The mile event only comes once or twice a year in Tx. The drag strip is always there for testing.

The black UG car that trapped 169 went low 240's someone correct me if I am wrong.

SW trapped 191 and went 246 of course he was not using the same power on both runs but you get my point.

Chris Green

 

Well time will tell. It is fun to debate what kind of power/aero/driving technique it will take. But until the runs are made and the results are in, it is just alot of babbling!

Looking forward to the results and I think on roller skates with an Ares rocket (294,000 lbs of thrust) strapped to my back I could break 260 mph!

Of course my aero would suck but we should have enough power to overcome!

 

That would be great however, the car is currently gutted and getting the cage installed which is FAR more important than the drag strip right now. After the cage is finished, it goes to the body shop to have the new roof installed. After that we may test it at the drag strip (time permitting) but we will most likely use our past experience to get us to our goal and perform our testing at the event. There is more to this than trapping 169 MPH or 191 MPH in the 1/4 mile to reach the goal.