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Intercoolers...997,2 Vs 997,1...Game over...

Finally today madsex343 and me were able to datalog IAT of 997,2 ICs and compare results with OEM 997,1 IC units...We are talking about 17-18degC lower IAT for a run from 50 to 220-230km...I will post excel data in a while...
 
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Finally today madsex343 and me were able to datalog IAT of 997,2 ICs and compare results with OEM 997,1 IC units...We are talking about 17-18degC lower IAT for a run from 50 to 220-230km...I will post excel data in a while...

Your car with 997.2 IC's and Madsex with 997.1's, same day, same AT?
(we must remember the both car have the same tune)
 
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wow nice results borderline unbelievable =)
 
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<table width="288" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 54pt;" width="72" span="4"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 54pt;" width="72" height="17">997,1 IAT</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">997,2 IAT</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">AMB=20</td> <td>
</td> <td class="xl22">AMB=16</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">95,09</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">86,93</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">95,38</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">89,95</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">96,9</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">94,15</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">99,84</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">20</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">99,15</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">104,12</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">103,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">108,54</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">107,98</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">112,8</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">112,21</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">26</td> <td align="right">116,66</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">115,66</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">26</td> <td align="right">120,31</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">119,47</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">27</td> <td align="right">123,05</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">122,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">28</td> <td align="right">125,49</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">124,57</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">29</td> <td align="right">136,63</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">127,44</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">30</td> <td align="right">139,88</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">130,36</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">31</td> <td align="right">142,94</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">133,8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">32</td> <td align="right">145,71</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">137,1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">32</td> <td align="right">148,63</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">140,39</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">33</td> <td align="right">151,77</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">143,52</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td align="right">154,78</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">146,67</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">157,65</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">23</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">149,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td align="right">160</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">152,76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">37</td> <td align="right">162,98</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">155,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">38</td> <td align="right">165,63</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">158,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">38</td> <td align="right">168,2</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">161,29</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">39</td> <td align="right">170,57</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">0,16</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">41</td> <td align="right">173</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">180,43</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">41</td> <td align="right">175,41</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">182,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">42</td> <td align="right">177,91</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">184,67</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">44</td> <td align="right">180,16</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">186,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">44</td> <td align="right">182,19</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">188,63</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">45</td> <td align="right">184,37</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">190,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">186,57</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">191,88</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">188,55</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">193,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">190,52</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">195,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">48</td> <td align="right">192,48</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">197,34</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">50</td> <td 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height="17">56</td> <td align="right">210,18</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">216,77</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">56</td> <td align="right">211,96</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">218,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">57</td> <td align="right">213,34</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">220,14</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">57</td> <td align="right">214,59</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">221,49</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">58</td> <td align="right">216,52</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">223,09</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">217,67</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">224,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">219,61</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">226,2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">220,59</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">227,78</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">222,45</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">229,05</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">60</td> <td align="right">223,59</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">42</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">230,47</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" 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just because it flows more doesn't mean it cools more, theres a thread with crazy results from a 997.2 intercooler on a 996tt car in the 996tt section
 
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I posted a head to head comparison of both logs,997,1 Vs 997,2...Ambient temp was 20C for 997,1 and 16C for 997,2...You can see that from cruising IATs start with a 4 deg difference (exactly the same as ambient temp difference.but as speed rises,delta rises as well...)997,2 ICs are way better,and when Porsche designs ICs,they really know what they do...Plastic,very light,cheap to buy and winner in performance...
 
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just because it flows more doesn't mean it cools more, theres a thread with crazy results from a 997.2 intercooler on a 996tt car in the 996tt section
Obviously.

However, to compare intercoolers, you need to evaluate two parameters. Thermal efficiency and pressure efficiency. I'm well aware of earl3's excellent efforts posted on the 996TT forum. If you read the thread, I posed the question there as well to see if anyone had any comments.

I could turn your statement around and say...just because an IC cools better doesn't mean it doesn't have a significant pressure drop from the inlet to the outlet. Just because the IATs have fallen doesn't necessarily make this a superior intercooler.
 

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I ve logged boost as well...maybe it will help if boost is the same...
 
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there is definitely a balance between flow and cooling ability -there are many coolers that have extremely low pressure drop (good flow) but cool worse than stock, not something I want on my car. I'll ask a psi or 2 more of extra pressure from my compressors to move the air across a good core any day. If the core is overly restrictive, it'll show up in charge temps as you move the compressor into lower efficiency rings, ain't happenin' here. Another point, Porsche (or J Deus) designed this cooler to work at 620hp and 24psi of boost, so I don't think small flow differences between the coolers in the CMS test are a huge issue here so long a power levels are in that ballpark.

Skandalis,
Nice to have another data point, very similar to what I saw I believe you mentioned going through several aftermarket cooler options, most with worse results than stock -any comments there?
 

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<table width="288" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 54pt;" width="72" span="4"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 54pt;" width="72" height="17">997,1 IAT</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">997,2 IAT</td> <td class="xl23" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">AMB=20</td> <td>
</td> <td class="xl22">AMB=16</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">95,09</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">86,93</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">95,38</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">89,95</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td align="right">96,9</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">94,15</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">24</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">99,84</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">20</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">99,15</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">104,12</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">103,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">108,54</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">107,98</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">25</td> <td align="right">112,8</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">112,21</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">26</td> <td align="right">116,66</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">115,66</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">26</td> <td align="right">120,31</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">119,47</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">27</td> <td align="right">123,05</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">122,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">28</td> <td align="right">125,49</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">124,57</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">29</td> <td align="right">136,63</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">127,44</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">30</td> <td align="right">139,88</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">130,36</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">31</td> <td align="right">142,94</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">133,8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">32</td> <td align="right">145,71</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">137,1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">32</td> <td align="right">148,63</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">140,39</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">33</td> <td align="right">151,77</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">143,52</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td align="right">154,78</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">146,67</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">157,65</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">23</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">149,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">35</td> <td align="right">160</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">152,76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">37</td> <td align="right">162,98</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">155,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">38</td> <td align="right">165,63</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">158,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">38</td> <td align="right">168,2</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">161,29</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">39</td> <td align="right">170,57</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">0,16</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">41</td> <td align="right">173</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">180,43</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">41</td> <td align="right">175,41</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">182,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">42</td> <td align="right">177,91</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">184,67</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">44</td> <td align="right">180,16</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">186,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">44</td> <td align="right">182,19</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">188,63</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">45</td> <td align="right">184,37</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">190,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">186,57</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">191,88</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">188,55</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">193,59</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">47</td> <td align="right">190,52</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">195,32</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">48</td> <td align="right">192,48</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">197,34</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">50</td> <td align="right">193,92</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">199,29</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">50</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">195,43</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">33</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">201,24</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">50</td> <td align="right">196,96</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">203,09</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">51</td> <td align="right">198,77</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">204,78</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">52</td> <td align="right">200,79</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">206,63</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">53</td> <td align="right">202,15</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">208,62</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">53</td> <td align="right">203,84</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">210,18</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">54</td> <td align="right">205,57</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">211,9</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">55</td> <td align="right">207,3</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">213,67</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">55</td> <td align="right">208,48</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">215,05</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">56</td> <td align="right">210,18</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">216,77</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">56</td> <td align="right">211,96</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">218,41</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">57</td> <td align="right">213,34</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">220,14</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">57</td> <td align="right">214,59</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">221,49</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">58</td> <td align="right">216,52</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">223,09</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">217,67</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">224,7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">219,61</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">226,2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">220,59</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">227,78</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">59</td> <td align="right">222,45</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">229,05</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">60</td> <td align="right">223,59</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">42</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">230,47</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">61</td> <td align="right">224,91</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">232,05</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">62</td> <td align="right">226,37</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">233,45</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">62</td> <td align="right">227,53</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">234,93</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">62</td> <td align="right">229,17</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">236,21</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl22" style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">63</td> <td class="xl22" align="right">230,29</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">237,62</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="height: 12.75pt;" align="right" height="17">63</td> <td align="right">231,58</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">238,88</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Nice results: with the 997.1's the IAT reaches 50°C (time pulling entry) early 200kph and still not at 240kph with the 997.2's.
I'm curious to know after 250kph, and near 300.
It confirms Earl's tests.
 
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If the core is too restrictive, it'll show up in charge temps, ain't happenin' here.
You can rob pressure efficiency without causing an increase in temperatures, and certainly not on a single WOT run. I'm not disputing the new IC's superior thermal efficiency...and Skandalis has done a nice job demonstrating what earl3 has shown already...however, I'd have to see a comparison of pressure or flow efficiency before I would call it "game over."

You'll note - the testing chart I posted was flow at 2 psi...where a stock 997TT boosts at 15-17 psi. I believe it is an interesting question that is worth some discussion.
 

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Skand', do you feel the car stronger? or not perceptible?

For the flow, a boost datalog would help yes I think...
 
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<table width="576" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 54pt;" width="72" span="8"> <tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 54pt;" width="72" height="17">997,1 IAT</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">BOOST</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">RPM</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">997,2 IAT</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">SPEED</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">BOOST</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 54pt;" width="72">RPM</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">AMB=20</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl26">
</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl26">AMB=16</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl27">
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class="xl26">2380</td> <td class="xl24">5.554,25</td> <td class="xl26">20</td> <td class="xl26">99,15</td> <td class="xl26">2350</td> <td class="xl24">5.574,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">25</td> <td class="xl27">104,12</td> <td class="xl27">2270</td> <td>5.701,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">103,59</td> <td class="xl27">2290</td> <td>5.772,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">25</td> <td class="xl27">108,54</td> <td class="xl27">2190</td> <td>5.953,75</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">107,98</td> <td class="xl27">2230</td> <td>5.993,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">25</td> <td class="xl27">112,8</td> <td class="xl27">2150</td> <td>6.107,75</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">112,21</td> <td class="xl27">2150</td> <td>6.209,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">26</td> <td class="xl27">116,66</td> <td class="xl27">2070</td> <td>6.308,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">115,66</td> <td class="xl27">2130</td> <td>6.423,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">26</td> <td class="xl27">120,31</td> <td class="xl27">2040</td> <td>6.463,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">119,47</td> <td class="xl27">2050</td> <td>6.539,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">27</td> <td class="xl27">123,05</td> <td class="xl27">2030</td> <td>6.596,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">122,32</td> <td class="xl27">2030</td> <td>6.308,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">28</td> <td class="xl27">125,49</td> <td class="xl27">2020</td> <td>6.065,00</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">124,57</td> <td class="xl27">2010</td> <td>5.310,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">29</td> <td class="xl27">136,63</td> <td class="xl27">2400</td> <td>4.812,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">127,44</td> <td class="xl27">2300</td> <td>4.520,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">30</td> <td class="xl27">139,88</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>4.918,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">130,36</td> <td class="xl27">2500</td> <td>4.773,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">31</td> <td class="xl27">142,94</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>4.958,25</td> <td class="xl27">20</td> <td class="xl27">133,8</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>4.845,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">32</td> <td class="xl27">145,71</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>5.074,00</td> <td class="xl27">21</td> <td class="xl27">137,1</td> <td class="xl27">2480</td> <td>4.937,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">32</td> <td class="xl27">148,63</td> <td class="xl27">2450</td> <td>5.168,25</td> <td class="xl27">22</td> <td class="xl27">140,39</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>4.997,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">33</td> <td class="xl26">151,77</td> <td class="xl26">2440</td> <td class="xl24">5.255,25</td> <td class="xl27">22</td> <td class="xl27">143,52</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.124,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">35</td> <td class="xl27">154,78</td> <td class="xl27">2430</td> <td>5.356,75</td> <td class="xl27">23</td> <td class="xl27">146,67</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>5.189,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl28" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">35</td> <td class="xl28">157,65</td> <td class="xl28">2420</td> <td class="xl25">5.445,25</td> <td class="xl26">23</td> <td class="xl26">149,7</td> <td class="xl26">2450</td> <td class="xl24">5.289,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">35</td> <td class="xl27">160</td> <td class="xl27">2400</td> <td>5.518,75</td> <td class="xl27">23</td> <td class="xl27">152,76</td> <td class="xl27">2430</td> <td>5.412,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">37</td> <td class="xl27">162,98</td> <td class="xl27">2380</td> <td>5.604,00</td> <td class="xl27">24</td> <td class="xl27">155,41</td> <td class="xl27">2400</td> <td>5.511,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">38</td> <td class="xl27">165,63</td> <td class="xl27">2370</td> <td>5.680,50</td> <td class="xl27">25</td> <td class="xl27">158,32</td> <td class="xl27">2380</td> <td>5.584,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">38</td> <td class="xl27">168,2</td> <td class="xl27">2340</td> <td>5.775,00</td> <td class="xl27">25</td> <td class="xl27">161,29</td> <td class="xl27">2360</td> <td>5.676,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">39</td> <td class="xl27">170,57</td> <td class="xl27">2310</td> <td>5.858,75</td> <td class="xl27">26</td> <td class="xl27">0,16</td> <td class="xl27">0</td> <td>5.756,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">41</td> <td class="xl27">173</td> <td class="xl27">2300</td> <td>5.914,25</td> <td class="xl27">29</td> <td class="xl27">180,43</td> <td class="xl27">2130</td> <td>6.286,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">41</td> <td class="xl27">175,41</td> <td class="xl27">2280</td> <td>6.008,00</td> <td class="xl27">29</td> <td class="xl27">182,7</td> <td class="xl27">2100</td> <td>6.377,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">42</td> <td class="xl27">177,91</td> <td class="xl27">2250</td> <td>6.084,00</td> <td class="xl27">29</td> <td class="xl27">184,67</td> <td class="xl27">2100</td> <td>6.451,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">44</td> <td class="xl27">180,16</td> <td class="xl27">2180</td> <td>6.166,50</td> <td class="xl27">30</td> <td class="xl27">186,59</td> <td class="xl27">2090</td> <td>6.529,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">44</td> <td class="xl27">182,19</td> <td class="xl27">2150</td> <td>6.231,25</td> <td class="xl27">30</td> <td class="xl27">188,63</td> <td class="xl27">2060</td> <td>6.598,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">45</td> <td class="xl27">184,37</td> <td class="xl27">2140</td> <td>6.297,00</td> <td class="xl27">31</td> <td class="xl27">190,41</td> <td class="xl27">2070</td> <td>6.294,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">47</td> <td class="xl27">186,57</td> <td class="xl27">2130</td> <td>6.369,25</td> <td class="xl27">31</td> <td class="xl27">191,88</td> <td class="xl27">2140</td> <td>5.261,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">47</td> <td class="xl27">188,55</td> <td class="xl27">2100</td> <td>6.435,00</td> <td class="xl27">32</td> <td class="xl27">193,59</td> <td class="xl27">2340</td> <td>4.844,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">47</td> <td class="xl27">190,52</td> <td class="xl27">2110</td> <td>6.524,00</td> <td class="xl27">32</td> <td class="xl27">195,32</td> <td class="xl27">2510</td> <td>4.928,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">48</td> <td class="xl27">192,48</td> <td class="xl27">2110</td> <td>6.565,00</td> <td class="xl27">32</td> <td class="xl27">197,34</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>4.964,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">50</td> <td class="xl27">193,92</td> <td class="xl27">2120</td> <td>6.186,50</td> <td class="xl27">32</td> <td class="xl27">199,29</td> <td class="xl27">2480</td> <td>5.004,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl28" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">50</td> <td class="xl28">195,43</td> <td class="xl28">2270</td> <td>5.213,75</td> <td class="xl26">33</td> <td class="xl26">201,24</td> <td class="xl26">2480</td> <td>5.034,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">50</td> <td class="xl27">196,96</td> <td class="xl27">2540</td> <td>4.850,50</td> <td class="xl27">34</td> <td class="xl27">203,09</td> <td class="xl27">2480</td> <td>5.100,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">51</td> <td class="xl27">198,77</td> <td class="xl27">2550</td> <td>4.888,50</td> <td class="xl27">35</td> <td class="xl27">204,78</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.122,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">52</td> <td class="xl26">200,79</td> <td class="xl26">2550</td> <td>4.908,50</td> <td class="xl27">35</td> <td class="xl27">206,63</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.169,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">53</td> <td class="xl27">202,15</td> <td class="xl27">2550</td> <td>4.954,25</td> <td class="xl27">35</td> <td class="xl27">208,62</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.206,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">53</td> <td class="xl27">203,84</td> <td class="xl27">2540</td> <td>4.984,00</td> <td class="xl27">36</td> <td class="xl27">210,18</td> <td class="xl27">2480</td> <td>5.249,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">54</td> <td class="xl27">205,57</td> <td class="xl27">2520</td> <td>5.013,00</td> <td class="xl27">37</td> <td class="xl27">211,9</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.298,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">55</td> <td class="xl27">207,3</td> <td class="xl27">2520</td> <td>5.044,25</td> <td class="xl27">37</td> <td class="xl27">213,67</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.336,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">55</td> <td class="xl27">208,48</td> <td class="xl27">2510</td> <td>5.077,00</td> <td class="xl27">38</td> <td class="xl27">215,05</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.356,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">56</td> <td class="xl27">210,18</td> <td class="xl27">2520</td> <td>5.112,25</td> <td class="xl27">38</td> <td class="xl27">216,77</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.394,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">56</td> <td class="xl27">211,96</td> <td class="xl27">2500</td> <td>5.159,75</td> <td class="xl27">39</td> <td class="xl27">218,41</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.431,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">57</td> <td class="xl27">213,34</td> <td class="xl27">2500</td> <td>5.198,50</td> <td class="xl27">39</td> <td class="xl27">220,14</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>5.495,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">57</td> <td class="xl27">214,59</td> <td class="xl27">2500</td> <td>5.231,00</td> <td class="xl27">40</td> <td class="xl27">221,49</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>5.513,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">58</td> <td class="xl27">216,52</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.263,00</td> <td class="xl27">40</td> <td class="xl27">223,09</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.544,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">59</td> <td class="xl27">217,67</td> <td class="xl27">2490</td> <td>5.283,00</td> <td class="xl27">41</td> <td class="xl27">224,7</td> <td class="xl27">2440</td> <td>5.599,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">59</td> <td class="xl27">219,61</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.338,25</td> <td class="xl27">41</td> <td class="xl27">226,2</td> <td class="xl27">2440</td> <td>5.631,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">59</td> <td class="xl27">220,59</td> <td class="xl27">2470</td> <td>5.353,25</td> <td class="xl27">41</td> <td class="xl27">227,78</td> <td class="xl27">2410</td> <td>5.656,00</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">59</td> <td class="xl27">222,45</td> <td class="xl27">2460</td> <td>5.401,75</td> <td class="xl27">42</td> <td class="xl27">229,05</td> <td class="xl27">2410</td> <td>5.689,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">60</td> <td class="xl27">223,59</td> <td class="xl27">2450</td> <td>5.430,00</td> <td class="xl26">42</td> <td class="xl26">230,47</td> <td class="xl26">2400</td> <td>5.732,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">61</td> <td class="xl27">224,91</td> <td class="xl27">2430</td> <td>5.465,50</td> <td class="xl27">43</td> <td class="xl27">232,05</td> <td class="xl27">2410</td> <td>5.765,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">62</td> <td class="xl27">226,37</td> <td class="xl27">2420</td> <td>5.490,75</td> <td class="xl27">44</td> <td class="xl27">233,45</td> <td class="xl27">2400</td> <td>5.793,50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">62</td> <td class="xl27">227,53</td> <td class="xl27">2410</td> <td>5.526,00</td> <td class="xl27">44</td> <td class="xl27">234,93</td> <td class="xl27">2370</td> <td>5.838,25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">62</td> <td class="xl27">229,17</td> <td class="xl27">2410</td> <td>5.555,50</td> <td class="xl27">44</td> <td class="xl27">236,21</td> <td class="xl27">2380</td> <td>5.865,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">63</td> <td class="xl26">230,29</td> <td class="xl26">2370</td> <td>5.570,25</td> <td class="xl27">45</td> <td class="xl27">237,62</td> <td class="xl27">2350</td> <td>5.894,75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17">63</td> <td class="xl27">231,58</td> <td class="xl27">2360</td> <td>5.620,50</td> <td class="xl27">45</td> <td class="xl27">238,88</td> <td class="xl27">2550</td> <td>5.728,50</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
 
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Due to the fact that this run was done with 996TT rims and tires,there is a small difference in km/rpm...pirelli does not have tires at 997TT sizes in Europe...and so 996TT set of wheels is installed...!!!
 


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