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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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997.2 Turbo S GIAC - 10.668 @ 130.27

I'm no drag racer...but a buddy of mine did a private track rental at Famoso in Bakersfield, CA.


I started the day running with my rear tires at 44psi and with PSM on. Couldn't break into the 10's after 9 tries. Austin from GIAC was there and had me lower rear tire pressure to 30, turned off PSM and rely entirely on LC in Sport Plus with the computer shifting all gears for me. Viola...6 passes in a row in the 10's with a best of 10.668 @ 130.27.


EDIT: Can't get the time slips to show very well. Did a couple 104.6's in the 1/8th mile which I thought was pretty good. Just need to get an exhaust and intercoolers to get some more top end


If I had MIR or ATCO DA's of -3,000 the traps would have been a couple MPH higher. Also, I was hotlapping the whole day. If I were taking it easy on the runs and in better conditions there's a 132 in there. Also, my 60 foot times weren't that great. Car was spinning and I had to fight it from going sideways. Definitely left a couple tenths on the table.


Here's my stats - car 477:
 
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Great runs, thanks for sharing. The turbo S is a nice setup right from the factory.

Any other turbos there?
 
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Great run, what tires was this on?
 
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I'm actually disappointed to read this. My Turbo S with no tune, no plenum, street tires at 44psi ran a 10.75@129.2 and another guy ran a 10.69@129.8. Mine was at Great Lakes Dragaway and it was +800 DA and the other guy was at Cecil County but not sure of his DA.

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.
 
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Great runs Adam! Not bad for a virtual stock car!! With the PSM off and 30psi, how much tire spin? Was the air temp low 70s?
 
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Originally Posted by 3Kidz
I'm actually disappointed to read this. My Turbo S with no tune, no plenum, street tires at 44psi ran a 10.75@129.2 and another guy ran a 10.69@129.8. Mine was at Great Lakes Dragaway and it was +800 DA and the other guy was at Cecil County but not sure of his DA.

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.
You're right. I'll subscribe. The stuff may add midrange power, but in the end I wonder if it really makes a faster car. The .2 turbo is an amazingly fast car bone stock.
 
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Originally Posted by 3Kidz
I'm actually disappointed to read this. My Turbo S with no tune, no plenum, street tires at 44psi ran a 10.75@129.2 and another guy ran a 10.69@129.8. Mine was at Great Lakes Dragaway and it was +800 DA and the other guy was at Cecil County but not sure of his DA.

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.
+1. Yeah, Im still on the edge w/the tune. The car is fast enough stock for now.

It's also depends on how well the track is prepped too.
 
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Originally Posted by PSTT07
Great runs, thanks for sharing. The turbo S is a nice setup right from the factory.

Any other turbos there?

Me and a couple friends were the lone Euro cars in a sea of 1,000 HP domestics.

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Great run, what tires was this on?

Thanks. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sports.

Originally Posted by 3Kidz
I'm actually disappointed to read this. My Turbo S with no tune, no plenum, street tires at 44psi ran a 10.75@129.2 and another guy ran a 10.69@129.8. Mine was at Great Lakes Dragaway and it was +800 DA and the other guy was at Cecil County but not sure of his DA.

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.

The tune and plenum do nothing. Neither does exhaust, or upgraded turbos.


The fact that I ran very close to a with a full bolt on upgraded turbo e85 tuned 997.1 putting 700 to the wheels in run #13 in my Airstrip races a few weeks ago was just pure luck:


https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...2-turbo-s.html



Originally Posted by kenromero
Great runs Adam! Not bad for a virtual stock car!! With the PSM off and 30psi, how much tire spin? Was the air temp low 70s?

Hey Ken, tires were spinning for a bit. Maybe 20-50 yards down the track. Was a fight to keep it straight! I'm sure that negatively affected my traps by a lot. With DR's, this thing has a mid-low 10 second run in it easy as my 60-foot times were poor.


Temps were low 60's but Austin's DA reader had the track surface a few degrees warmer than that. It read +1,500 ft. most of the day. But in my first post I posted the DA as reported on Drag Times which was +500.
 
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Originally Posted by 3Kidz

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.
Originally Posted by ryem3
You're right. I'll subscribe. The stuff may add midrange power, but in the end I wonder if it really makes a faster car. The .2 turbo is an amazingly fast car bone stock.
Hi guys...just wanted to clarify a couple things. Longboarder's car only has the GIAC stage 1 software at this time...so realistically, he's probably putting down somewhere between 50-70 more HP to the wheels then stock at this time. It takes A LOT of hp to lose a tenth here and there once you get into the 10's in the 1/4 miles...so being his first time really doing it, I think his results are promising.

The real improvement will be when he steps up to the Stage 2 software and gets another 100 or so HP to the wheels....

Our in-house car went 9's on stock turbos. And so no one thinks there was some special magic sauce in that car, here's a video of a customer in New York running 10.1 in a cabriolet (about 350 lbs heavier) and on street tires.

 
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Tom,
Love the p101 on the turbo S. Are those satin or gloss charcoal?
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
here's a video of a customer in New York running 10.1 in a cabriolet (about 350 lbs heavier) and on street tires.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mfkas0A7S0
How is this car equipped?
 
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Originally Posted by 3Kidz
I'm actually disappointed to read this. My Turbo S with no tune, no plenum, street tires at 44psi ran a 10.75@129.2 and another guy ran a 10.69@129.8. Mine was at Great Lakes Dragaway and it was +800 DA and the other guy was at Cecil County but not sure of his DA.

I wonder if the tune and plenum actually does anything? I don't care about dyno numbers. Thanks for posting. Until you post a 10.2 or 10.3, I've decided I'm not getting a tune.
I'd strongly encourage you to race a modded one if you think that. Adding a great deal of low end torque makes these cars a fair bit harder to cut great 60' times which can hinder 1/4 mile performance. You can see from the other videos above posted what our cars do when they actually have proper traction.

You can also confirm this with anyone whose driven a GIAC flashed 997.2 Turbo or Turbo S versus a stock one, but the results are incredibly noticeable. You can bet if people weren't satisfied with it, they'd be using the 30 day money-back that we offer. Something we've haven't had to do yet.
 
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Originally Posted by ryem3
How is this car equipped?
At the time the video was taken it had basically the same setup as our shop car. That includes the GIAC flash, Tubi race exhaust, IPD plenum, BMC filter, and our intercoolers.

We're in the process of swapping all the parts onto the owner's new car which is a coupe. We then might add a few other tricks and see what it can really do...stay tuned.
 
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Tom,

What exactly does the stage 2 entail? Parts and cost?
Also, what boost pressures are you achieving on the stage 1 and stage 2 programs?

Thanks,

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Tom,
Love the p101 on the turbo S. Are those satin or gloss charcoal?
They're satin.

Originally Posted by WaltB
Tom,

What exactly does the stage 2 entail? Parts and cost?
Also, what boost pressures are you achieving on the stage 1 and stage 2 programs?

Thanks,

Walt
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I almost hate to use the word "stage" because we don't really sell the flash that way, but I guess it does make it simpler. The "stage 2" software requires the IPD plenum, our intercoolers, along with the parts you probably already have from "stage 1" (i.e. cat-less exhaust, drop in filter). The stage 2 flash will run about 22psi on both pump and race gas. The stage 1 stops at about 18 psi.
 


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