My take is that the GT3 car will always be worth more than the turbo. Production numbers aside, the GT3s are special and unique cars.

I think TT owners (myself included) are growing more sensitive to the gap in price between GT3 and TT cars. GT3 car values are going through an appreciation bubble while TT car values are following normal depreciation.

IMO the GT3 bubble will ease up and they will return to 'normal' prices (will there be a GT3 pull back in prices at some point? I think so.) while the TT cars start to appreciate. Thus narrowing the price gap. In the long run, for equivalent cars, the GT3 will always cost more… just not at the large price deltas we are currently seeing.

And for future values, I'm glad I have a low mile, high optioned MT coupe.

 

Yep, about 3500 mt .1 coupes, compare that to the 2703 993 turbos delivered to the us market. You can't touch a 993tt for less than 100k now, the same car could be had for 65-70 in 2011, I know I bought and sold a 34k mile car

 

Chris is that midnight blue? Same as your first 997TT?

 

Boy I don't understand why people are raving about GT3s so much. I just saw one do a dyno pull in 4th gear and I almost fell asleep it was pulling for so long. 320whp @ 44,000rpm...

 

Haha you made me chuckle!

 

This is an old thread, but I just wanted to comment because I've been doing a lot of research on this topic. A contributing factor here is automotive journalism. The turbo is very often criticized among journalists because it's not naturally aspirated and it's awd. Those are two things that decrease "driving excitement." The GT3 is 2wd, NA, and the 997 revs to 8500. Hence the "ultimate drivers car" etc. I don't want to speak out of place, because I'm no expert, but based on automotive journalism, I would say the GT3 is universally accepted as the greatest Porsche, and the greatest car really altogether. I cannot afford a GT3 at $100,000 but if I could, I would. Which is insane because the TT is better car for me in every way. Especially in a straight line and RIDE COMFORT.

At one time, I thought "if there's ever another manual GT3 the 997 will finally depreciate" but I no longer believe that. The hype is such that GT3 is a brand in of itself that inspires awe. Those prices just aren't coming down.

 

There's something to be said for what the journalists say. As a part-time journalist myself, having lapped many cars, a normally aspirated motor is a great thing. And I also called the 991 TTS the best overall performance car.

But now the new GT3RS laps within one second of the 650hp C7 Z06. It has racing pedigree and is a great choice for a track oriented car.

I can't swing a 991 TT, prefer the 991 styling, and am going to try to compromise with a GTS.

Regarding AWD, I love it. Even in a very slow B7 Audi A4 I loved the AWD. But having a very torque-heavy 335d and prior an SRT-8, I can definitely live with RWD. My 3 favorite cars I've ever lapped are a 458, GT350R and the R8 V8/V10.

 

Nice thread with the production chart. The .2 is a much rarer car, even though it doesn't have the Mezger.

I'm still really wondering about the manual thing. I had a manual 997s and a .1 turbo. I'm really just wondering how many people will be able to drive manual cars in the future. Pretty soon, you own a "classic", but no one can drive it and then no one will buy it! This may occur that are cars that aren't quite " collectors ".

 

So you could get a MT in the 997.2 cars ('10-'12)? I thought they were all PDK. Did you have to special order those?

 

There are very few 997.2 with MT, Porsche starting to eliminate MT on ALL 997.2TTS. You still can find 997.2TT MT but you have to hunt for it, there is a fellow rennlister selling his 997.2TT MT little less than 30k miles asking $85k right now. His car has nice options also, I think it's the only one in the market 997.2TT MT. GL

 

That's why I've been thinking. I dont know many 25 and under that can drive a manual. I still want a 991 soon just might not sell the 997

 

The turbo is robotic, unemotional and lacking feedback.

The gt3 connects man to machine, offers feedback and creates an emotional relationship that man is willing to pay for. Once bitten, a gt3 is hard to substitute thus creating the demand that outweigh's the supply and the support is created for the higher values that are present.

 

488 to be exact... feel lucky to have one of em

 

Thats right, there are only 488 997.2 (2010-2013) Turbo coupes out there with the manual gearbox.

And, now that the 991.2 GT3 will be available in manual which hurts the appeal of the 997 GT3, the 997.2 Turbo may end up leap-frogging the 997 GT3 in appreciation potential.

 

Does the GT3 also ignite the passion that my heart so desires??!?! I'm getting aroused