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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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lol how easily infuriated - what now you no like I have lots of cars with different performance exhausts only a minute ago I was an EP fanboy? Which is it wise guy? Now pootle off and go polish your exhaust pipes if they haven't fallen off
Haha. Ok. You're still fanboy. I didn't say anything about not liking your rides. I just didn't comment. When you mentioned Brabus, I realized you're just a big poser. They're just sound and body kits. Brabus brand were big in the 90s but are popular with Smart cars now. Just your type fruitcake! ;-)

I totally lost respect for you as a car person. Now I know you're just one of those folks who buy expensive and think its the best in world. Haha.
 
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Haha. Ok. You're still fanboy. I didn't say anything about not liking your rides. I just didn't comment. When you mentioned Brabus, I realized you're just a big poser. They're just sound and body kits. Brabus brand were big in the 90s but are popular with Smart cars now. Just your type fruitcake! ;-)

I totally lost respect for you as a car person. Now I know you're just one of those folks who buy expensive and think its the best in world. Haha.
Still upset that we have a Brabus lol - its the wife's car buddy - if you trot along back to MBW like a nice little troll you may find her there and you can tell her yourself. Haters will be haters and thanks for neg rep very mature ....
 
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This thread has gotten utterly rediculous .all that is going on In the world people bickering over which cat is better totally moronic!!!
 
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There are a few really good options. I don't use the word best because that is a pretty bold statement when you have so many key factors including cost. Most of the high end systems out fit well or perfectly. All you need to do is search. In the 991TT section there are several happy clients with (in alphabetical order) EP, Kline and Tubi. More are coming to market. Both Kline and EP have a strong following with very happy customers. Some happier than others lol even though they have also displayed that it's difficult to have the perfect system. Modulation in the system helps a bit. Both fit great, are high quality and offer cats with no cel tune or not. Sound characteristics, System variations/modulation and weights are some of the differences. And of'course the cats. Some with 991's have moved to decat systems for optimal high performance and lower EGT's.

You could reach out to both companies or representatives and see what suits you. You will find proud owners and installers for both, with all cat/decat variations.
Maybe for other cars but dealer disagrees with that Sambo and they have seen most in shop! Dealer really should know here, they are Porsche trained on the cars they sell and service so sure to be qualified for making best conclusion than just some enthusiastic forums opinions also from sellers agents so on. Or you say Porsche dealer not know enough? Pls explain?

They assure EP cats and whole system is much ""best"" from what they see so far in shop and fit. And yes they have seen Klines and no fit it anymore in their shop end of story. Am I to now argue with them to say they don't know enough from what they see?

You say there is no best? Hmm. That make no sense sambo and only trying to defend with nice story about everything is great not just one better than other. Bit like saying Porsche is not best over say Hyundai car or like Sangyong because others 2 are cheaper and drive too.

no offend but I think I listen to my dealer on this one sambo....have them happy so if things go wrong sometime and then they say told you so now warranty!
 
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I respect your and their opinion. You are entitled to it. When hard working gentleman spend hard earned funds on a system that does not fit I assume you would hear about it. In many cases you do actually. I have had several dealerships in several countries praise the quality on both of the systems mentioned. In fact you will find pretty wonderful reviews about Kline and EP. You are saying many clients, reputable shops and technicians do not make sense here. I just do not agree that there is only one great exhaust option. You are putting down the entire industry.

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I think no one can really say what is really the"best", as there is no scientific measurements to determine what isthe “best”. The best sound, the mostexpensive, the cheapest, the lightest……….. And what is best sound anyway?? Theyare all subjective. Maybe the best iskeeping OEM stock, as Porsche has to honor the warranty. However, even the Porsche OEM parts might notthe best. Don’t forget Porsche is a massproduction auto manufacturer and they are in business to make a lot of $$$$, sothey have to compromise with cost and quality in order to sell more QTY.

Can anyone tell us that Porsche officially honor thewarranty with any of these aftermarket exhaust makers without saying you didthis, so the warranty is void, blah blah blah?


Who decide the best? It is end users in the end of the day and the answers are all different. IMHO

 
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Maybe one day, China, Japan, Korea, or Taiwan produce a set of "Economical" exhaust by using Samsung or bullet train quality and with Asian labor cost, Will it be the best??
just kidding, relax guys!!
 
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[COLOR=#333333][FONT="Verdana"]I think no one can really say what is really the"best", as there is no scientific measurements to determine what isthe “best”. The best sound, the mostexpensive, the cheapest, the lightest……….. And what is best sound anyway?? Theyare all subjective. Maybe the best iskeeping OEM stock, as Porsche has to honor the warranty. e the best? It is end users in the end of the day and the answers are all different. IMHO
Sure yes always "subjective" with sound, but quality with more reliable operations and long term health are 2 different thing with more importance to some than others, this is clear. I am no expert, so have trust and respect for dealer knowledges and experiences re what they are thinking about the 100 "cats" part though so... btw You have some "scientific measurements" at all to share pls?

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. You are putting down the entire industry.

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Not at all..and not need to be sad sambo just because Porsche techs give their conclusions and advises to me about what they feel a good comfort with and what they not, and I share their thoughts here which making you a little sad. Sorry you cannot sell the EP and also make a little money for it but perhaps you ask them to sell as well? Dont worry I will not be ever saying hey don't buy or use this one or that....I will just care about my own car situations and for dealer comfort with health of car long term, that way if problem arise they will fix it up. Peace and happiness to all!
 

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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 07:14 PM
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I'm not sad mate. Your post paints a very clear picture, says a lot and that is for you. You have a great theory that there is only one answer. Stay with it. Enjoy. I'm doing just fine as are my clients.

In my opinion it also says a lot what direction these threads always go in and how/who it starts with. It was just a congratulations until some could not handle it. The only time EP came out of my mouth it was positive. Not good PR for your brand of choice. And again I'm doing just fine as are my clients. But thank you for your classy mature concern.
 

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I don't have anymeasurements, so I don't know which is the best. If there was one, thenwe could just simply purchase the best one according the rank andpersonal financial strength. isn't it? And there will be noneed to argue about it. I am running the stock, because I also want tokeep long term health and trust Porsche will use proper parts. But from time to time, I just want to get onewith a better sound, as the stock is too boring. We would like to get the best one for my needincluding the health of my car like you mentioned and so on……... If you know some Porsche dealers vouch forEP, care to share the contact information, so I could talk to them for the peaceof mind? Thanks.

 
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Not good PR for your brand of choice.
No brand of choice, not even bought any pipe yet actually. You getting a little emotional for strange reasons. Chill. Maybe you will ask again to sell the EP for them and perhaps I will buy it from you when time comes, I read your service is good!
 
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Yes, my service IS good. As is my word. Take a look at my signature. That's all my guys need to know. Whoever doesn't want to work with me it's their loss IMHO. Have some confidence, integrity and look up professional conduct. If you take from my post that I am emotional then you are even more awesome! I wonder what level of behavior is next. Choose whatever you want my friend. Although it seems you and your dealer feel there is only need for one exhaust system in the world. Enjoy it. Move on. When you are ready to purchase that is. I could have stopped along time ago in this thread but I realize I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just responding courteously too immature comments and thoughts so that people don't get a one-sided or misleading picture...From some who seem to be angry that one customer changed his mind and is happy. Representing choice and service. Only seeming to be aggressively challenged by stubborn fans ignorant to other people's opinions and options. Great job ruining yet another exhaust thread with bad energy and "best" claims.
 

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This thread should just be deleted already. I am unsubscribing. Op, I am glad you have a product on your vehicle that gives you exactly what you want from it. Enjoy it in good health.
 
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Yes, my service IS good. As is my word. Take a look at my signature. That's all my guys need to know. Whoever doesn't want to work with me it's their loss IMHO. Have some confidence, integrity and look up professional conduct. If you take from my post that I am emotional then you are even more awesome! I wonder what level of behavior is next. Choose whatever you want my friend. Although it seems you and your dealer feel there is only need for one exhaust system in the world. Enjoy it. Move on. When you are ready to purchase that is. I could have stopped along time ago in this thread but I realize I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just responding courteously too immature comments and thoughts so that people don't get a one-sided or misleading picture...From some who seem to be angry that one customer changed his mind and is happy. Representing choice and service. Only seeming to be aggressively challenged by stubborn fans ignorant to other people's opinions and options. Great job ruining yet another exhaust thread with bad energy and "best" claims.
Oh Wow I'm just reading your new editing today. Stubborn, Ignorant??? You should really stop it! And being sarcastic towards members who happen not to share same views as you is NOT "professional" at all mr sambo....it is very disrespectful actually. An advise: Try be a lot more grown up about it and deal with others sharing opinions! Seems only what you say and think counts here and any body who have different opinions than you then they get your "professional" sarcasm responses. Not good!

I agree you should stop defending yourself as you just making it worse and no need to do that if it has more nasty remarks towards others!
 

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Actually no. I'm not defending myself. I'm defending choices for people. I am not saying to deal with one person or that there is only one best. That is coming from others. I'm simply tired of sitting and watching things like this happen. Look where the attacks came from and who they came from before provoking others to respond. It's a common tactic to distract from others hard work. Many of us are tired of it. I've been here a long time and have a connection with this forum and its members. Everyone who cares to know is quite aware that I am personally very open-mindedrespect others opinions and efforts. Tell me if I'm wrong… This forum is for members of all kinds to share opinions thoughts and especially enjoy. Not to say that this is the best only that is approved. If I am wrong then fine. I will ask you the same sir… What is your beef? Do you like everyone to just say OK if you say that you and your dealership of choice feel there is only one good option for exhaust and it's the BEST. OK good for you then. Move on. There are many that do not feel this way. And whether you attack myself, I manufacturer that I respect or anyone else I will let you know. Keep it coming if you feel it's necessary.
 


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