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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 03:48 PM
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997tt buy w/ bad carfax /autocheck history

I am going to look at a 2007 997 turbo tomorrow and just paid for a carfax & auto check report. The reports were not exactly clean which may be the reason for the price. I already intended to get a PPI but based on these reports should I just walk away now? The car seems to be priced well below market @ $45k with ~42k miles. Below is the car fax which shows two accidents, auto check only reports one accident. Both reports indicate that airbags were deployed. The second accident which car fax shows also mentions structural damage. I also found a dealer who was trying to sell the car years ago, they describe the accident but who knows if they are telling the truth, link:

http://www.usedcarsfsbo.com/asp/Item...=8%2F19%2F2010

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Owner 1
Purchased: 2006
Type: Personal
Where: Florida
Est. length owned: 7/14/06 -
12/19/06
(5 months)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/12/2006 2 The Collection
Coral Gables, FL
305-444-5555
thecollection.com Pre-delivery inspection completed
Washed/detailed


07/14/2006 The Collection
Coral Gables, FL
305-444-5555
thecollection.com Vehicle sold


07/14/2006 20 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Miami, FL Odometer reading reported
Titled or registered as
personal vehicle


07/28/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Miami, FL
Title #0096387675 Title issued or updated
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
Titled or registered as
personal vehicle
Vehicle color noted as Silver


09/29/2006 1,489 The Collection
Coral Gables, FL
305-444-5555
thecollection.com Vehicle serviced


12/18/2006 2,301 The Collection
Coral Gables, FL
305-444-5555
thecollection.com Body computer/module checked
Steering wheel replaced
Front door trim panel replaced/repaired
Instrument cluster checked


12/19/2006 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale


Owner 2
Purchased: 2006
Type: Personal lease
Where: Florida
Est. miles/year: 11,712/yr
Est. length owned: 12/22/06 -
1/11/10
(3 years)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
12/22/2006 2,400 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lisle, IL Odometer reading reported


12/26/2006 Dealer Inventory Vehicle sold


01/24/2007 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lisle, IL
Title #0096387675 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Titled or registered as personal lease vehicle
Loan or lien reported Two states? Vehicle leasing companies often title a car in one state but register it to be driven in another.


11/30/2007 Braman Motorcars of Palm Beach
West Palm Beach, FL
561-684-6666
bramanbmwwpb.com Recommended maintenance performed
Computer reprogrammed
Front brake rotor(s) replaced
Front brake pads replaced
Rear brake pads replaced
Rear brake rotor(s) replaced
Brake fluid flushed/changed
Antifreeze/coolant flushed/changed
Cooling system bled
Water pump replaced


12/27/2007 Braman Motorcars of Palm Beach
West Palm Beach, FL
561-684-6666
bramanbmwwpb.com Battery replaced


01/19/2008 Braman Motorcars of Palm Beach
West Palm Beach, FL
561-684-6666
bramanbmwwpb.com Front brakes replaced
A/C refrigerant recharged
A/C condenser replaced


02/04/2008 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Miami, FL Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location


02/12/2008 Florida
Damage Report Accident reported
Involving left front impact
It hit a guardrail
Disabling damage reported
Vehicle towed
Airbag deployed
CARFAX Airbag Tips


02/29/2008 Braman Motorcars of Palm Beach
West Palm Beach, FL
561-684-6666
bramanbmwwpb.com Vehicle serviced


11/17/2009 39,216 Porsche Of Orlando
Maitland, FL
407-262-0800
porscheorlando.com Body electrical system checked
Clutch checked


01/11/2010 Auto Auction
Florida Sold at auction


02/12/2010 39,239 Online Listing Vehicle offered for sale


03/01/2010 39,392 Suncoast Motorsports
Sarasota, FL
941-923-1700
suncoastmotorsports.
com Console repaired
Interior trim checked
Exterior trim checked
Engine/powertrain computer/module checked


03/19/2010 39,649 Suncoast Motorsports
Sarasota, FL
941-923-1700
suncoastmotorsports.
com Maintenance inspection completed
Exterior lights checked
Electrical system checked


05/15/2010 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept. Vehicle purchase reported
05/24/2010 39,764 Suncoast Motorsports
Sarasota, FL
941-923-1700
suncoastmotorsports.
com Interior trim checked


Owner 3
Purchased: 2010
Type: Lease
Where: Florida
Est. length owned: 6/2/10 -
6/7/10
(5 days)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
06/02/2010 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Sarasota, FL
Title #0096387675 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Titled or registered as lease vehicle
Vehicle color noted as Silver


06/07/2010 39,770 Auto Auction
Florida Sold at auction


06/12/2010 Online Listing Vehicle offered for sale


10/05/2010 Damage Report Damage reported after
accident or other incident
Airbag deployed
Structural damage reported
Damage to front
CARFAX Airbag Tips


Structural damage may impact vehicle safety and reliability. Get the unibody or frame of the vehicle inspected by a professional.


Owner 4
Purchased: 2011
Type: Personal
Where: Montana
Est. length owned: 2/16/11 -
present
(4 yrs. 8 mo.)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
02/16/2011 40,251 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept. Vehicle purchase reported


02/25/2011 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA0741246 Registration issued or renewed
Title or registration issued
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as Silver


12/19/2011 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA0741246 Title issued or updated
Loan or lien released
Vehicle color noted as Silver


12/19/2012 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA1522839 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
Correction to record
Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
Vehicle color noted as Silver


04/05/2013 Porsche Cars North America Manufacturer Voluntary Service Action issued
#WD04 VOLUNTARY SERVICE ACTION - RETROFIT
PROTECTIVE TUBE ON EX


01/28/2014 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA1522839 Registration issued or renewed
Vehicle color noted as Silver


05/18/2015 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA2578465 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
Correction to record
Vehicle color noted as Silver


07/13/2015 Montana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Whitefish, MT
Title #AA2578465 Registration issued or renewed
Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
Vehicle color noted as Silver
 
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Here is the auto check summary:


Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
07/14/2006 FL 20 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

07/28/2006 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0096387675)

07/28/2006 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

12/22/2006 FL 2,400 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

01/24/2007 FL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0096387675) (Lien Reported)

01/24/2007 FORT LAUDERDALE, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

02/04/2008 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

02/12/2008 FL State Agency LEFT FRONT IMPACT WITH A GUARDRAIL (Case #:77039921)
AIR BAG DEPLOYED
VEHICLE DAMAGE REPORTED AS DISABLING
VEHICLE WAS TOWED

10/07/2009 FL 39,216 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION

12/04/2009 FL Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION

01/11/2010 FL Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION

01/11/2010 FL 39,216 Auto Auction AUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE

05/15/2010 FL 39,223 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

06/02/2010 SARASOTA, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0096387675)

06/07/2010 FL 39,770 Auto Auction AUCTION ANNOUNCED AS FLEET/LEASE

06/08/2010 FL 39,770 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION

08/09/2010 FL 40,268 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION

02/01/2011 WHITEFISH, MT Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

02/25/2011 WHITEFISH, MT 40,251 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:AA0741246) (Lien Reported)

12/19/2012 MT Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:AA1522839)
CORRECTED TITLE

01/01/2014 MT Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

05/18/2015 MT Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:AA2578465)
CORRECTED TITLE
 
Old Oct 27, 2015 | 04:04 PM
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Run, don't walk away! I personally will not consider a TT with any damage history. There's a reason it's so cheap, no one will buy it.
 
Old Oct 27, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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It all depends. How cheap can you get it? What are the plans for it? Lot's of Mods? It doesn't have a salvage title? Any pics of it now, what are the mods? If you are on that kinda budget, might be a good learner car, to figure out how it all works.

My first 996 turbo was a higher mileage(66K), road car, not a garage queen. Great interior, some mechanical issues, minor stone chips. I learned a lot. And fixed a few things myself.

Once I was sure I liked the whole thing, I made a great trade for a newer low mileage 997. Very Clean. But 2X the value of the 996.
 
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Too many red flags for me. Hitting a guard rail, as stated in carfax, and airbags deployed sounds more serious than hitting something minor in the road as stated by the dealer. If you buy this car, be prepared to hold on to it for a very long time because it will be very difficult to sell.
 
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^^ right it's not the cheap price, but the impossible resale that kills this deal.
 
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I owned a Range Rover that turned into a complete lemon and was unsellable to the general public. I ended up selling it through a dealer at auction. My thought with this car is that if the inspection turned out okay and we could agree on price, maybe closer to $40k, I could always sell the car at auction when I'm ready to move on. I plan to use the car as a daily driver however I also have a work truck. Not sure about mods, I've gone down that road with other cars.

Is it worth it to pay and have the car inspected? At ~ $40k it seems like a no brainer. What are cars like this getting at auction now?
 
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Run away!!!!
 
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Structure damage and air bag deployment not worth the aggravation of resale. I rather get a descent 996 TT at $40k
 
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Is this even a question? I'd beat Usain Bolt high tailing it outta there...
 
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All four brake rotors and pads replaced in first 12 months........she has had a hard life......as already said.....resale will be a challenge and if you go the auction route I think you will inevitably loose in money.....remeber these cars are not inexpensive to repair and maintain and the more abuse it has had the more likely you are to be paying out...even at $40k get a PPi.....eyes wide open as they say.
 



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