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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by terrence
Interesting.

I got my 997tt about 4 weeks ago. So far, its great for me as a daily driver. I prefer not getting looks, although that has not been the case. I have been followed by many different cars not wanting to pass, including SL55's, 430's, M5's, M6's, and even an Enzo. I have had people stopping me saying the car looks amazing, ...etc. To me, its not a car you go out in the middle of the night just for a drive. That's not what I use it for. I use it as a daily driver and it happens to be quicker and grips and brakes better than 99% fo the cars out there. In fact, it brakes better than anything I have ever driven. I actually turned down my Gallardo spyder after it finally arrived last week, because I drove it and it was frankly underwheming and slow. Exhaust was loud but not particularly pleasant. Ferrari V12's with Tubi sounds better. Actually my old 360 with Tubi sounds way better. In terms of speed, my E55 K1 feels faster. My Z06 was definitely faster.

Overall, I am very happy with my 997tt. Its not as exciting like a Ferrari 430 or Stradale, but then its not meant for that. Its a GT first and foremost, with a nice sound system, SAT radio (I got the Cayenne kit), very comfortable seats, etc, but has the performance of an exotic sports car. Those who need more noise and curb appeal need to look elsewhere.
MAybe it felt that way becuase the car was new and not broken in....My car got significantly quicker after 1000 miles....Hell, 2 mags tested the 2006 spyder at 3.8 0-60......that's faster than some of the cars you mention and by no means slow...Like I said the 2006 was tons better and faster than my 2004...
 
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Originally Posted by Livo69
I dont know what to say about the 997 that wont offend people.

My oppinion is that the 997 Turbo really lacks in all areas for a redesigned car. The exteriror of the car looks great (except front end) but it is not anything new. The interior in my oppinion is better suited in an Infiniti ( the lines are way too clean and conservative), the performance figures are completely weak compared to the competition for a high end sportscar and the car really has no "WOW" factor to it. If you are spending over $125,000 on a car you should want some recognition on the street by the public. Nobody wants 100's of eyes oogling over you car, but its nice when people notice you from the crowd. Same reason we wear the clothes that we do. Same reason we where the watches we do. Yes, we do it for ourselves but deep down we know that these items are going to catch peoples attention. Its human nature.

I was thoroughly checking the 997 turbo out at a dealer last week. Yes the car overall is nicer than a stock 996 turbo but the 997 lacks enough appeal for me and many people I know, for us to trade in our 996Turbos in for the new model.

Just my thoughts, no need to bash them.
Perhaps it's time for Porsche to reconsider the gradual evolution ethic and consider more radical changes for the 988tt.
 
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Originally Posted by monsoonmadness
They are two different cars and thats what I think. The TT is a great car and will never have that presence that the Gallardo as well as the Ferraris have but thats not what its about. The TT is a animal that is meant to be driven, the Gallardo is a car IMO that is more for the person that wants to look at it all day.
Do you have your turbo yet?!? I need a ride, and a run on film for 6speed

Anyway i wouldnt have given up an 06 Gallardo for a 997TT, but that's me! Both cars are nuts though.
 
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I would pick the Gallardo if offered both.
 
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Lou go get the "G" back and ditch the 997 it is too passive and soft..your "G" was sick looking and no offense it has it looks wise over any P Car..even if its not an "M" only a "G". I was thinking WTF were you doing selling that so quick, you guys in Chicago have more time on your hands then us Miami nutcases... must be those cold winters that get to your brains...you trade cars like I trade watches...

Originally Posted by LSM
I'll be honest, I miss my 2006 Gallardo bad!!.....The 997TT although slightly faster, lacks the sports car charachter of the Gallardo....After getting out of my Gallardo, the 997TT feels closer to a GT car than a sports car.....closer in character to an M6...

Here is my list of shortcomings

1) Exhaust...Are you kidding??? so quiet
2) Steering...feels way overboosted and light
3) Ride Height...way to high
4) Handling....not pinned to road like my G was
5) Looks....the car is invisible, nobody even looks...(now that is not why I buy a car, but, come on at $130k+ you'd like someone to notice)

All of the above were strong point of my Gallardo and I honestly wish I still had it....Anyone else??

Lou
 
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Yes IllM3 I have my car and its sick. As far as the whole Gallardo thing is concerned, you CANNOT compare a Gallardo that costs over 185K to a 997TT that is about 130. There is quite a chunk of change between them.
On another note you gotta compare a 997Tt with a 04 Gallardo that is about 140K and is out of warranty. And IMO at that point I would take the Porsche any day.
The Gallardos that I drove were both an 04 and a 05 and I will say again that I felt the car was stale and BORING!! If it did not look like a spaceship I would think its an Audi!! Also, the outward visibility on the Gallardo was terrible and even after driving it for 15 minutes I still was not confident in the car.
Yes, I admitt, it has that whole exotic thing going on, but for that kind of money it better have..

The bottom line IMO is that I was there and have had 3 996TT and before I bought the 997Tt there was alot of other cars that were running through my mind. But when it came down to it and I was ready to buy a 140K used Gallardo I said to myself that I am NOT gonna be driving this thing around waiting for it to break. I want that new car warranty and if you are comparing a 06 Gallardo for 185 or 190K its just not fair.
 
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Originally Posted by Livo69
I dont know what to say about the 997 that wont offend people.

My oppinion is that the 997 Turbo really lacks in all areas for a redesigned car. The exteriror of the car looks great (except front end) but it is not anything new. The interior in my oppinion is better suited in an Infiniti ( the lines are way too clean and conservative), the performance figures are completely weak compared to the competition for a high end sportscar and the car really has no "WOW" factor to it. If you are spending over $125,000 on a car you should want some recognition on the street by the public. Nobody wants 100's of eyes oogling over you car, but its nice when people notice you from the crowd. Same reason we wear the clothes that we do. Same reason we where the watches we do. Yes, we do it for ourselves but deep down we know that these items are going to catch peoples attention. Its human nature.

I was thoroughly checking the 997 turbo out at a dealer last week. Yes the car overall is nicer than a stock 996 turbo but the 997 lacks enough appeal for me and many people I know, for us to trade in our 996Turbos in for the new model.

Just my thoughts, no need to bash them.
agreed...the 996 and 997 are too similar IMO...if you want a P car you can save 60-70K and get the 996 and mod...i cant believe the thread starter traded a 06 G for a 997TT...06 G > 997TT IMO
 
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I like the subtleness of the 997TT...I like to be stealth and a little under the radar....I was very uncomfortable when I had the Ferrari and EVERYONE STARES!!!! ...that's just not for me personally
 
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No dissapointments here at all. The 997TT gets better with every mile. I love every refinement about it. And as many of you people aleady know, I have a few exotics to compare it to. I too like the Stealth, not in your face styling. Speed is utterly ridiculous, couple that with build quality & reliability and you've got a winner!
 
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Originally Posted by monsoonmadness
Yes IllM3 I have my car and its sick. As far as the whole Gallardo thing is concerned, you CANNOT compare a Gallardo that costs over 185K to a 997TT that is about 130. There is quite a chunk of change between them.
On another note you gotta compare a 997Tt with a 04 Gallardo that is about 140K and is out of warranty. And IMO at that point I would take the Porsche any day.
The Gallardos that I drove were both an 04 and a 05 and I will say again that I felt the car was stale and BORING!! If it did not look like a spaceship I would think its an Audi!! Also, the outward visibility on the Gallardo was terrible and even after driving it for 15 minutes I still was not confident in the car.
Yes, I admitt, it has that whole exotic thing going on, but for that kind of money it better have..

The bottom line IMO is that I was there and have had 3 996TT and before I bought the 997Tt there was alot of other cars that were running through my mind. But when it came down to it and I was ready to buy a 140K used Gallardo I said to myself that I am NOT gonna be driving this thing around waiting for it to break. I want that new car warranty and if you are comparing a 06 Gallardo for 185 or 190K its just not fair.
Wow cool man, so when can we get together for a photoshoot, little friendly run OR just a ride

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I like the subtleness of the 997TT...I like to be stealth and a little under the radar....I was very uncomfortable when I had the Ferrari and EVERYONE STARES!!!! ...that's just not for me personally
But what if the ones that are staring have big boobies?
 
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But what if the ones that are staring have big boobies?
Then they get a ride
 
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Damn i would have never gave up a gallardo for a 997TT.. Just my opinion!
 


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