The Sound of Music: Porsche offers new exhaust on 911
Follow the link:
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/27/t...xhaust-on-911/

I really do not know if I like it......
With the chrome over the pipe, the pipe looks like is not finish. The pipe should follow the same angle as the chrome part.
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Ahhhh!

Where's the sound clip?!?!?!?!?

Any perf. gain?

Yes, these are rhetorical questions - just venting. Thanks for playing along!

As we all know, PSE never has a performance gain. $2500 and it's heavier and more complex than stock. Alternatively, you can spend $2-2.5k and get a primary bypass and softronic and get 25-30 extra HP and have that PSE sound all the time.

Crazy!

PSE has always seemed like a waste to me when there are better aftermarket exhaust systems.

Double topic, i was first

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...9-new-pse.html

those tips look like they got hit by the ugly stick a few hundred times during production.

I have faith that they will look nice in person; much more aggressive than the current design.

Maybe there was an issue with the way the new DI engine burns fuel. It might leave an unwanted residue on a covered tail pipe which is not an issue with the stock pipes. Just a guess.

No residue issues - if anything the DFI engine burns much more efficiently and completely than previous engines, which is why emissions are much lower, efficiency is much improved, etc. They are just trying to be different and give people some reason to buy a $2500 option that provides no benefit. The pipes do remind me of some vintage race cars I've seen - some sort of asbestos wrap to keep the rear panel from melting / catching fire.

I know that there are other, reportedly better, exhausts, less weight, more claimed power, but I have a problem paying more over $4k installed for them. And, the weight savings seem to be about 10-15 lbs. in real life, nothing you are going to notice in a 3200 lb. car. I am also not so sure about the power claims from a contemporary na engine.

So really, imo, you are paying for the sound which PSE does provide, just not all the time when wanted.

Ugly!!!

Don't know what you are taking about at $4k. Sharkwerks is $997 and Fabspeed is $1395 for the primary bypass. Installation is easy at about 1 hour of labor. The sound equates to that of PSE and you get about +15 to +20 HP / TQ. Add in Softronic and that changes to +25 to +30 for a total investment of maybe that $2500 figure.

Combine -10 to 15 lbs in weight with + 25 to 30 HP and there is a difference. My only point is that if you are so inclined to spend $2500 for a sound device in the OEM PSE, you might as well spend equal or less money and actually get performance with the sound.

+1.... Agree 100%
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The decision just got easier. Fabspeed dropped their X pipe to $995, AWE came out with their X at $895 and their straight pipes at $695 (I believe those are the numbers). So in theory, right now for about $1800 you can do a primary bypass and add Softronic and really have a Sport Exhaust and a significant performance boost.

I am talking about an approximate cost of $4k for a Tubi or other quality aftermarket set of mufflers. Champion is currently estimating the cost of the mufflers to be around $3600, plus local lobor to install.

I am not so sure that I believe all the gains made by the bypass pipes and would need to hear them in person. No offense intened to any of the vendors who promote their products here.

I do agree that it would be preferable to gain some power and lose some weight if spending any amount of money. However, I do not believe that a 10-20 lb. disparity in a 3200+ lb. car is going to be noticeable.

As far as one reason why Porsche may have elected to go with black steel end pipes may be because of increased carbon deposits at the tip ends. Yes, I realize that the DI engne emits less emissions, etc... but there is visible evidence of more black deposits at the tip ends on the new cars.