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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Spring recommendation

I'm considering techart springs for better look and handling.
Is there any negative side of installing only springs?
Is techart springs working well with stock 997s?
Any comments are welcome!!
 
Old May 7, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by madporsche85
I'm considering techart springs for better look and handling.
Is there any negative side of installing only springs?
Is techart springs working well with stock 997s?
Any comments are welcome!!
I had them on my Turbo and really liked them. The ride height was ideal , looks great , handled well.

I could have let it be but afterreading about the damptronic suspension I decided to opt for coils . I could have gone the Techart coil route but felt that the Bilsteins were good quality and affordable .

Comparing the two setups --TA springs vs Pss10 coils -- I feel that the damptronics give a more comfortable and offer better road feel . The spings seem to place more stress on the tires wheas the Bilsteins seem to absorb more within the suspension .

Installtion of either is time consuming so my advice is to get the coils.
 
Old May 8, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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i recently put the techart springs on my c4s. pretty nice improvement in ride height and surprisingly, handling. i'm really happy with them, no negatives for me...

i'm sure coilovers are better in ways but i couldn't justify the cost increase (got my springs used for a good deal)
 
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I'd say the biggest deciding factor will be how you currently use the car, and plan to in the future. Springs will work great for daily driving, some spirited cruises, and even the occassional track day. However, if you're looking for something that will allow you to fine tune the ride height and ride quality, I'd say coilovers all day. I'm very picky about ride height, so for me it's coilovers all day, but many people opt for springs and are very happy with the results. H&R or Champion springs are another inexpensive route to consider if you're looking for just springs.
 
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I just ordered H&R springs and sways having them installed on Tuesday i will let you know how they feel .
 
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considering that there are more than a few who did springs and then took them out to do coil overs, i'd say save yourself the added expense and do it right the first time with CO's
 
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springs are good but long term shocks will blow and you'll need new shocks or just swap up to coils... easier to just get it done right the first time and not risk your oem imo.
 
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If all this "stuff" (such as suspension mods, headers, air intake, lwfw) is so good, does anybody out there know why Porsche does not incorporate them either in the base or as an option? I've asked this question to PCNA district managers and executives, and even a couple of German Porsche development engineers I met a couple of years ago at Rennsport III, all to no avail. The closest thing I've got for an answer was from an ex Brumos Racing guy who said that the average dd or de people won't experience any real gains - if you want a track car get a GT3.
 
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I have H&R's and have had no problems. With sport mode on they are very stiff but thats the way I like it.
 
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If all this "stuff" (such as suspension mods, headers, air intake, lwfw) is so good, does anybody out there know why Porsche does not incorporate them either in the base or as an option? I've asked this question to PCNA district managers and executives, and even a couple of German Porsche development engineers I met a couple of years ago at Rennsport III, all to no avail. The closest thing I've got for an answer was from an ex Brumos Racing guy who said that the average dd or de people won't experience any real gains - if you want a track car get a GT3.
they do offer 3 different susp setups as options.. standard, the 10mm lower with pasm and the sport 20mm lower.

just cheaper/easier to do aftermarket.

headers and etc probably not so easy to add because strict emissions laws.. sport exhaust is closest thing we have.
 
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Originally Posted by tejoe
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If all this "stuff" (such as suspension mods, headers, air intake, lwfw) is so good, does anybody out there know why Porsche does not incorporate them either in the base or as an option? I've asked this question to PCNA district managers and executives, and even a couple of German Porsche development engineers I met a couple of years ago at Rennsport III, all to no avail. The closest thing I've got for an answer was from an ex Brumos Racing guy who said that the average dd or de people won't experience any real gains - if you want a track car get a GT3.
I wanted a GT3, however there were some extrinsic reasons beyond my control that didn't allow me to get one. I modded my car to be a lot more track oriented, but it still is a great DD. The stock C2S is a good sports car, but an OK track car.
 
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considering that there are more than a few who did springs and then took them out to do coil overs, i'd say save yourself the added expense and do it right the first time with CO's
+1, that is what I did.
 
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I installed Eibach springs which lowered my basic 997 One inch. I do not notice any difference in ride comfort-city driving. I expected a little harsher ride but the ride feels like stock . After reading articles in Excellence and Roundel magazines, it seems that the consensus is that lowering no more than One inch will Not cause any problems. BTW, paid $353 for the Eibach springs. The lowered profile looks great.
 
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Originally Posted by tejoe
Question:

If all this "stuff" (such as suspension mods, headers, air intake, lwfw) is so good, does anybody out there know why Porsche does not incorporate them either in the base or as an option? I've asked this question to PCNA district managers and executives, and even a couple of German Porsche development engineers I met a couple of years ago at Rennsport III, all to no avail. The closest thing I've got for an answer was from an ex Brumos Racing guy who said that the average dd or de people won't experience any real gains - if you want a track car get a GT3.
When Porsche releases a car they have to warranty it , provide service schedueles , and hedge their own costs . It's no secret that a 997 Turbo could be a sub 11 second car but would Porsche really want doctors and Ceo's crashing them on public roads ?

In short Porsche has to offer a generic superstar . The aftermarket offers what Porsche left out ... the spices tailored to the owners taste .
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
When Porsche releases a car they have to warranty it , provide service schedueles , and hedge their own costs . It's no secret that a 997 Turbo could be a sub 11 second car but would Porsche really want doctors and Ceo's crashing them on public roads ?

In short Porsche has to offer a generic superstar . The aftermarket offers what Porsche left out ... the spices tailored to the owners taste .

Bravo..well said.
 


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