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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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mObridge install issues

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I will try to get some support tomorrow as yesterday was not quite helpful - I got original navigation and also mobridge unit installed yesterday.
Navigation works fine but Mobridge gives issues.

it establishes contact with ipod and i can pair my phone with it but PCM does not see it at all. On pressing tel button system responds - no telephone available, pressing CD twice for cd changer shows 'cd changer: no cd'.

optical ring is intact as if i unplug optical cable from mobridge unit i loose navigation, i can see light in cable, so it seems to be alive.

is there any mobridge guru here who can advice? i am trying to work with seller who sold me unit but he does not seem to know much on how to troubleshoot and supposes issue may be related to the fact that my car never had cd changer installed originally. mobridge support wasn`t quite helpful yet. may be i`ll get more help from them tomorrow as yesterday dealer could not even get in touch with them - calls were not returned.
 
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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I did the install myself withou problem.

I have a installation manual and a install tips manual if that can help you.
 
Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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I did the install myself withou problem.

I have a installation manual and a install tips manual if that can help you.
Thanks, I resolved it - unit was pre-configured for mercedes by default and lost its porsche setup. I was able to recover it by mobridge wizard connect over bluetooth. Nice technology.

The only part I do not like is how they organized iPod browsing - I used to choose genre first, then artist, then album.

Here I can choose either album name from multiple artists or artist without particular album. Seems like a complete non-sense to me but may be I did not figure out yet how to tune this thing up properly.
 
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That is a nice way to fix it. I was going to offer a suggestion that may be useful at some point down the road.
Some time back, while I left my car battery disconnected for some time during a replacement project, my MoBridge stopped working. It seemed to 'see' the phone via BT, but no calling/dialing/phone book function, and did not see the iPod at all. Rather baffling.
I ended up downloading new MoBridge firmware on to a PC formatted SD card and, with the car off, loaded the card in to the MoBridge SD slot and powered up the car. It quickly reloaded the firmware to the latest version and all was fixed.
In case yours ever gets so confused that it can't communicate with your laptop, you may want to give this a try.

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Thanks, I resolved it - unit was pre-configured for mercedes by default and lost its porsche setup. I was able to recover it by mobridge wizard connect over bluetooth. Nice technology.

The only part I do not like is how they organized iPod browsing - I used to choose genre first, then artist, then album.

Here I can choose either album name from multiple artists or artist without particular album. Seems like a complete non-sense to me but may be I did not figure out yet how to tune this thing up properly.
 
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
Thanks, I resolved it - unit was pre-configured for mercedes by default and lost its porsche setup. I was able to recover it by mobridge wizard connect over bluetooth. Nice technology.

The only part I do not like is how they organized iPod browsing - I used to choose genre first, then artist, then album.

Here I can choose either album name from multiple artists or artist without particular album. Seems like a complete non-sense to me but may be I did not figure out yet how to tune this thing up properly.
There are some limitations in the PCM system itself which is hard for the mObridge guys to get around. What they essentially do is impersonate the CD stacker and use each of the disc's to represent a different iPod "tree".

I've sold my 08 car now but looking at the pdf manual I have it looks like disc 4 is Genre. Hope this helps.
 
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I've observed and read the same. That the interface issues are inherent in the PSM and cannot be addressed by the MoBridge folks. I've been told that you're better off controlling the system from the iPod rather than the PSM. It's a bit tackier - to have the iPod hanging out rather than tucked away when in use, but it does work better.
I rarely do either because I really bought the MoBridge for the BT and not the music.

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There are some limitations in the PCM system itself which is hard for the mObridge guys to get around. What they essentially do is impersonate the CD stacker and use each of the disc's to represent a different iPod "tree".

I've sold my 08 car now but looking at the pdf manual I have it looks like disc 4 is Genre. Hope this helps.
 
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Originally Posted by Verde
That is a nice way to fix it. I was going to offer a suggestion that may be useful at some point down the road.
Some time back, while I left my car battery disconnected for some time during a replacement project, my MoBridge stopped working. It seemed to 'see' the phone via BT, but no calling/dialing/phone book function, and did not see the iPod at all. Rather baffling.
I ended up downloading new MoBridge firmware on to a PC formatted SD card and, with the car off, loaded the card in to the MoBridge SD slot and powered up the car. It quickly reloaded the firmware to the latest version and all was fixed.
In case yours ever gets so confused that it can't communicate with your laptop, you may want to give this a try.
You see, I found out in my scenario it was a bit odd - I also did insert SD card, but I had to give it not the firmware but mobridge.ini file to reconfig it for Porsche. It seems mobridge simply ignores that as it never changed its config. I also did give that in combination with firmware, but not sure if it took it or not - now i can see it has latest one. But issue was to change its configuration and it worked only after i established connection over bluetooth. I have to say it was very glitchy, i tried for hour and a half to get it done - it was breaking connection all the time faster than i could get into that screen with mobridge config. but finally it worked.
 
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Originally Posted by aggie57
There are some limitations in the PCM system itself which is hard for the mObridge guys to get around. What they essentially do is impersonate the CD stacker and use each of the disc's to represent a different iPod "tree".

I've sold my 08 car now but looking at the pdf manual I have it looks like disc 4 is Genre. Hope this helps.
trick is to be able to choose an artist within previously selected genre, then from that artist alone to select particular album.

I do not see how to do that.
 
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Originally Posted by Verde
I've observed and read the same. That the interface issues are inherent in the PSM and cannot be addressed by the MoBridge folks. I've been told that you're better off controlling the system from the iPod rather than the PSM. It's a bit tackier - to have the iPod hanging out rather than tucked away when in use, but it does work better.
I rarely do either because I really bought the MoBridge for the BT and not the music.
yeah, makes sense.

I wonder now if I can install something on steering wheel itself to control PCM - start stop songs, make calls, selections. Need to look it up.
 
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Originally Posted by Verde
I've observed and read the same. That the interface issues are inherent in the PSM and cannot be addressed by the MoBridge folks. I've been told that you're better off controlling the system from the iPod rather than the PSM. It's a bit tackier - to have the iPod hanging out rather than tucked away when in use, but it does work better.
I rarely do either because I really bought the MoBridge for the BT and not the music.
What I realise now - I should probably find some program to rename all albums on Ipod to have first artist name and then album name.

Like 'Abba - Greatest Hits', etc. then it will be very easy to navigate directly in albums view.

Just need to find a tool to do this. I keep all my 500Gb of MP3s and music files in winamp, all categorized, so it will have to be some effort to re-do my car selection separately.
 
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
What I realise now - I should probably find some program to rename all albums on Ipod to have first artist name and then album name.

Like 'Abba - Greatest Hits', etc. then it will be very easy to navigate directly in albums view.

Just need to find a tool to do this. I keep all my 500Gb of MP3s and music files in winamp, all categorized, so it will have to be some effort to re-do my car selection separately.
I agree. I use iTunes and it seems to think a lot of albums are "compilations" irrespective if whether they are or aren't. And editing the value in that field in iTunes doesn't seem to work.

So in my case it's an apple / itunes issue rather than the car. It just shows what it sees.
 
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What I realise now - I should probably find some program to rename all albums on Ipod to have first artist name and then album name.

Like 'Abba - Greatest Hits', etc. then it will be very easy to navigate directly in albums view.

Just need to find a tool to do this. I keep all my 500Gb of MP3s and music files in winamp, all categorized, so it will have to be some effort to re-do my car selection separately.
utkinpol - take a look at the freeware program called mp3tag - it has a lot of clever ways to retag lots of mp3s. I have used it extensively in the past: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Where did you get your Mobridge installed - I see you are in MA. I would like to put one in my car asap and I am based in central mass. How do you like it? Did you check out the Dension and nav-tv?

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utkinpol - take a look at the freeware program called mp3tag - it has a lot of clever ways to retag lots of mp3s. I have used it extensively in the past: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

Where did you get your Mobridge installed - I see you are in MA. I would like to put one in my car asap and I am based in central mass. How do you like it? Did you check out the Dension and nav-tv?

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I also had navigation kit to be installed, so both jobs were done at Westwood dealership. They charged me 2 hours of work for mObridge install what is a bit of excess I think, I could probably do it myself but as car was gone for a day - heck with it, it saved me time.

I like the unit, integration with phone is very nice. That was major need for me as to operate blackberry while driving was a suicide.

Again, my only install issue was with Mercedes pre-configured unit, it lost its tune to Porsche (or never had it) and it did not want to take mobridge.ini configuration file from SD card. I had to connect my notebook over bluetooth to reconfigure it. Dealer`s mechanic honestly spent plenty of time trying to figure out what the deal was, but it was all useless. As of other shops - not even sure what to recommend, most of local shops seem to work mostly with Tooki modules and I did not want that by simple reason - with Tooki you need one module for bluetooth and another for Ipod, and both are priced at $700 something each. Mobridge I got from Ebay costed me $750 and it has all in one. there are still some left there - seller is OK guy, but could do better work perhaps with configuring. But he was very responsive and he installs them, so, I guess it is safe.

http://cgi.ebay.com/mObridge-Bluetoo...ht_4297wt_1165



Inconvenient Ipod browsing I believe is an issue on any Ipod interface you can get as they all are trying to substitute original cd changer.

About mounting location - my unit is right above navigation DVD in the trunk area. Bluetooth connection works good when my blackberry is in glove box or in storage pocket under PCM, if you plan to drop your phone into rear seats or keep it in your pocket - you better mount mobridge unit in the car behind glove box. It will be much more difficult to access it and you will need to keep ipod in glove box too but connection will be better.
 
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Thanks!

I got my car at Westwood Porsche and did not think of them for the install. Looks like all the iPod integrations are fairly similar in their limitations due to PCM.

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Thanks!

I got my car at Westwood Porsche and did not think of them for the install. Looks like all the iPod integrations are fairly similar in their limitations due to PCM.

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Kevin did mine so you can ask Sean on how much time he will charge you on that. They probably will say 2 hours, i think it is a bit much but, well, at $125 an hour it is not the end of the world.

If you have spare time you can definitely DIY - it is not that difficult, the only thing will be to pull out PCM with some care and then connect power wires. Optical hookup is very straight forward - look up at mobridge web site, they got plenty of descriptions.
 


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