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PDK Question
I have an 09 C2S with PDK and Sport Chrono Plus......after driving in the auto mode for a while I now started to drive it in the manual mode (which I love).
My question is in the manual mode since I am doing the shifting does it matter if it is in "sport mode" or is sport mode only applicable to when it is in auto ? Thanks
My question is in the manual mode since I am doing the shifting does it matter if it is in "sport mode" or is sport mode only applicable to when it is in auto ? Thanks
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Put this into Google ""2009 Technik Introduction All 997"" - there's a great doc I found that explains the various PDK modes in detail - might be on this site, I don't remember where I found it.
Example:
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
Example:
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is not available.
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport Plus button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is available.
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Put this into Google ""2009 Technik Introduction All 997"" - there's a great doc I found that explains the various PDK modes in detail - might be on this site, I don't remember where I found it.
Example:
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
Example:
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is not available.
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport Plus button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is available.
just what I was looking for....so the sport and sport plus mode do serve a very clear function both in automatic and manual mode
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Yes, if you push the throttle pedal all the way down to press the kick down button PDK will up shift any any mode. If you want PDK to hold the gear and not up shift (you have to be aware of the redline) do not push it into the kick down button. I use this technique a lot at the track.
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Absolutly they do....go out and try each mode for yourself in manual. Also a little trick for you....I am not sure of your driving skill or if you have any track events under your belt so be care doing this...but...for example say you are in 4th gear high rpms and going into threshold braking all you need to do is just pull back on the PDK gear lever or button on the wheels and PDK will downshift as fast as possible to the correct gear. PDK will rev match perfectly the whole way down through the gears.
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Find that document and read it - PDK has quite a few lesser know tricks: like a warm up program that forces higher revs and automatic switching to a sporty gear change map even when in normal mode. Very cool gear.
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The warm up program sounds interesting but this is the first I've heard of it.
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In normal mode at cold start up PDK will hold a gear slightly longer. This is to help the cats warm up and is basically an emission type of thing.
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I could not find the article either
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File is at porscheplanet.net
This file is over at porscheplanet.net
Look under "Files"
Then "997" files.
Very good info
Look under "Files"
Then "997" files.
Very good info
Put this into Google ""2009 Technik Introduction All 997"" - there's a great doc I found that explains the various PDK modes in detail - might be on this site, I don't remember where I found it.
Example:
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
Example:
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshift comfort is thus adaptive over the entire operating range
and adapts to suit the driver's individual driving style, but basic sportiness is
increased. The engine torque is reduced only slightly while changing gears. Downshifts
in deceleration state are accomplished with intermediate throttle application.
To avoid under-revving and the associated loss of driving comfort, the current gear
is switched down to the next lower gear at an engine speed of less than approx.
1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is only accomplished if there is a
kickdown in the speed limiting range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is not available.
Driving in selector-lever position “M”, Sport Plus button active
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
Upshifts and downshifts can be performed both on the steering wheel and using the
selector lever. Gearshifts are not adaptive and are purely performance-oriented with
a loss of comfort. In addition, the engine torque is not reduced while changing
gears. Downshifts in deceleration state involve quick and audible intermediate throttle
application with a sporty sound. To avoid under-revving and the associated loss
of driving comfort, the current gear is switched down to the next lower gear at an
engine speed of less than approx. 1,200 rpm. An upshift at the engine speed limit is
only accomplished if there is a kickdown in the engine speed limit range (panic shifting).
The vehicle always moves off in 1st gear. 7th gear is not used in this program.
The Launch Control function (racing start) is available.
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I am sure you have reported on this before, but how do you like the PDK vs manual for track duty? do you miss heel-toe work?
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Basically PDK was a godsend for me. However there is no way anyone could shift as fast or smooth as what PDK does...even with PDK in manual mode. PDK is not a true automatic....It is a sequential style dual clutch system and Porsche developed it back in the late 70's to use on their race cars at LeMans.
With PDK in manual I do not feel any disconnect with the car at all. I can control the gears and drive the car the way I want to drive it. I usually drive PDK on the street in manual mode. That way it is always second nature for me at the track. However on a hot day it sure is nice to pop PDK over in auto mode and grab that water bottle for a refreshing drink.
So for you 2 legged people, I truly do not know what to tell you about picking PDK or a 6 speed manual. I guess it all depends on what you like out of your car. Do you still dream of mastering heal and toe and relish in driving the track like your hero's have done in the past? Or are you into the latest and greatest technology and want to go faster and experience what Porsche has to offer today?
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