Has anyone been able to successfully transfer sport chrono data over their PCM 3.0 bluetooth connection? I realize the data can also be transferred to a memory stick but I'm specifically interested in knowing if anyone has been able to transfer the data by bluetooth. If so what device did you use? Thanks!

 

My phone (moto slvr) shows up as both a phone and data device in PCM but I had never tried transferring SC data. I wil play with it this morning and let you know.

 

Thanks jster! The fact that it shows up as a data device sounds very promising. According to the PCM 3.0 manual it will create a directory (folder) called "SportChrono". They don't tell you where to look for this but from my own experience I would guess it would be in the Bluetooth folder on the data device.

I tried it with my LG Dare phone and it says "incompatible file format" when I attempt to do the transfer. For what this is worth I do not have the Bluetooth hands free telephone option in my car however the PCM still has some Bluetooth functionality and I believe the reason why it does is so it can transfer the sport chrono data. This is exactly why I'm so curious about this. It allows me to pair my phone but it won't download the phonebook or ring when a call comes in since I don't have the hands free option but I'm thinking it should still transfer the sport chrono data. I just have to learn what kind of a device it wants to "see". Thanks!

 

I checked it out earlier today and encountered the following....phone shows as a data device in the PCM (as well as a phone device) as previously mentioned; created a sport chrono entry in the car; sport chrono gives me a choice of transferring the data to transfer to a connected data device (I have two...ipod and phone...ipod hardwired, phone BT); I select the phone data device on it fails. Tells me it can't find the device even though it is one of the choices in PCM and even though the error message in blue at the bottom of the PCM display says can't connect to the device and uses the correct name of the phone in the error message. I didn't have the time to go further from there but it is odd that the PCM sees the phone, provides a menu entry allowing data transfer but then burps when trying to make the transfer. Will play around some more later. Sorry couldn't be more help at this time.

 

Anyone knows how to connect iphone to the PCM??

 

How do you want to connect it? As an iPod or as a Bluetooth hands free device?

If you want to connect it as an iPod plug it using the cable in your center console. This assumes you have a 997.2 with PCM 3.0 and the Universal Audio Interface option. Remember to plug in USB part of the cable into the USB socket in your center console if you also want to charge it while you're playing it.

If you want to connect it as a Bluetooth hands free device press the phone button and select search for new device. You'll first need to make sure Bluetooth is turned on on your iphone and that the device is discoverable (refer to your iPhone manual). The above assumes you have a 997.2 with PCM 3.0 and the Bluetooth Hands Free option.

 

jster,

Thank you very much for trying and posting your results. It's kind of interesting that it recognizes an iPod as a data device but then again, it is a hard drive by definition. I doubt it would be able to transfer files to the iPod because it probably won't recognize the file format. As far as Bluetooth goes I know the iPod Touch 2G running software version 3.0 has a stereo headset profile but I don't believe it can transfer any data because I attemted that with my full featured Bluetooth laptop and wasn't successful.

I really should get my laptop down to the garage but I'm a little "scared" to do that because it's semi-permentantly installed where it is and I also keep critical business data in it. I'm not concerned that PCM will do any harm to it, I'm just afraid to move it from it's location for fear of dropping it or bumping it. This laptop gets "babied" more than my 997 does.

 

Auto_Union-- The good news is that Sport Chrono data WILL transfer over a BT connection, in my case to a phone. The iffy news is that it may depend on the phone you use, if you use a phone, and its implementation of the BT profiles. I say this because my old Moto, as mentioned before, is seen by the car as a data device but the transfer burps when initiated and will not complete. On the other hand, I used an even older Nokia smartphone and it worked just fine thus showing SC data over BT works. Oddly and as an aside, I also discovered the Nokia is able to transfer the phonebook over to the PCM which was not possible in my M5. I didn't try a LT or DT BT connection so I don't know how that would go but I would venture to guess that it might work very good as those BT stacks are more robust and s/w upgradeable as opposed, typically, to the f/w in phones. Hope this helps.

 

jster,

Thank you very much for your report. It definitely makes sense that an older Nokia phone works because that brand is extremely popular in Europe. I have cousin who lives in Amsterdam and visits me every so often. She usually carries a Nokia with her. I'll try pairing her phone next time she's in town. As you said through it depends on the BT profile that the devices uses. Just because something is BT enabled doesn't mean it's going to work with the PCM. The correct BT profile must be recognized to achieve full functionality. Thanks again for checking on this I'm really glad to hear that it works. I know some enthusiasts pan the S/C option but I'm glad I ordered it. The sport button is still the best feature of this package IMHO but it's still very cool that you can transfer data from the car to another memory device.

 

The PCM just can't find the iPhone on Bluetooth??? What should I do??

 

Bluetooth has the added complexity of which profiles are supported by the two devices using the bluetooth radio data link.

As many have found out in various contexts, the PCM3 has bluetooth data link on in it by default for a host of reasons (to allow for adding modules that use it such as hands free, sim profilephone, in-car handset, data transfer, etc). However, beyond the data link (think of it as plugging the a cable into two devices) there is the issue of the communications protocol that is used over that connection thats the issue.

In the PCM3 you need to purchase the right options to enable the features on the PCM3 side you want to use (want hands free or sim profile support, you need to buy it and get it enabled in the PCM), and the phone needs to suport it (so the phone also needs to have the HFP ( hands free profile) or SIM profile). For data transfer there is a different profile (I think there are several that can 'transfer data' in various contexts). For the bluetooth transfer of sport chrono or trips data by bluetooth, both ends would need to support the same data transfer profiles. I'm thinking PCM3 uses a specific profile to do that transfer, and if the phone doesn't support that profile, your out of luck.

Verizion phones were notorious, for example, for having bluetooth but that only implmeneted a stupidly small set of profiles such as wireless headset or mono-audio playback and that was it (no phone book or data capability), even though the phone's hardware would allow it... Verizon crippled their phones.

So it could be the phone thats not supporting the profile the PCM3 wants (assuming you don have the PCM3 option purchased to allow the transfer of data).

 

1) Did you purchase the hands free bluetooth phone option on the car (ie does the car come with that option)?

If no, then you you cannot connect the phone to the car, even though they may see each other as bluetooth devices.


2) Does your bluetooth phone support the HFP (hands free profile)?

if no you are out of luck.


3) If the above 2 were yes, then you need to pair the phone and the PCM. That can get complex since the pairing operation requires one device to be the master in the process, and frequently the PCM and the phone will try to be the master.

What has worked is that if the phone tries to add the PCM to itself, cancel that sequence on the phone side. Use the PCM to discover the phone - in the phone/bluetooth config pages of the PCM3. The PCM will discover the phone (your phone must be in the mode that makes it discoverable.. not hidden.. so turn the discovery on for the phone if need be)... then select the phone on the PCM3 after it was discovered. The PCM3 will then give you a multi-digit code that you then must key in ON THE PHONE, so the PCM3 can be sure its talking to a phone that you are in control of and its the right phone. The PCM3 has then accepted the pairing with that phone, and you should then be good to go.

You can then turn off the discovery mode setting of the phone again, since the pairing has taken place and things continue to work.