Hi guys,

I have a question for you, I'm seeking opinions and advice. As many of you know, I've been throwing ideas around about trading the C2S in against an R8/Gallardo/F360 but to be honest, I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet. I need to give myself something to look forward to once I'm done with med school.

I'm in the position to buy a new or lightly used 997.2 S with PDK within the next 6-12 months but its got me thinking, am I really getting much more for the potential $40k+ outlay? Not only that but in 2/3 years time, I'm back exactly where I started with a massively depreciated 911!

My other alternative is I take $15k, have TPC fettle my car and stick a 520hp monster turbo in there and a few interior mods like a Techart steering wheel, some carbon bits to tidy up the door handles etc. This would give me a monstrously fast car that's going to be hard to beat in terms of performance. My car has 37k miles on it now, so not that tired yet and it has 1 year left of CPO warranty. I could probably sell my AWE exhaust/EVOMS intake to cover a little bit of the cost as well.

What would you do? Any further suggestions perhaps?

I look forward to hearing your opinions.

 

997tt.1?

 

Gt3?

 

Do it Perfect sleeper car.

 

+1, 997.1 GT3 is a great car for the money.

 

TPC turbo will give you a 'new' love of your car....so I would do that,plus the tidbits you mentioned!
A FI(turbo) system wakes the car up.....IMO!
That will hold you over for a few more years and then IF you are ready by then you could step up to the BIG dollar cars!
Just my $.02

Stacy

 

Yeah if I do this then it would be in lieu of changing my car at all in the next few years, so it would definitely have to keep me interested for a few years to come.

 

Build the sleeper,Thats what I am saving up for.

 

997.1 Turbo with some minor mods. The depreciation is already absorbed by the first owner. the car will have less miles , a CPO , and without going overboard in mods you can still make nice gains at a reasonable cost.
Since the car is the last of the Gt1 Turbo cars in 2 to 3 years it will not get creamed in value.

The numbers --
If you spend 90K (rounding up) on the car and 10K on mods =100K
3 years from now you still will get 75K .
If you keep your current car it will lose 15k but without warranty can incur an expense.
Plus it won't have the power.
If you add a Turbo to yoir current car (aftermarket) it will never be an OEM Turbo and will only sell to a particular buyer and by then it will have 50K miles and hard to sell .

 

He is asking if we would recommend modding his 997.1C2S to a single turbo (TPC), or buy a 997.2C2S, not a 997TT.

 

I'm considering this kit too.

I like the idea of the TPC kit because depending on how much you paid you will still be under the cost of a used 997TT. Also I can't stand the turbo's front bumper and silly pimple driving lights. I've never like Porsche's turbo wheels except for the 1991-1994. I know the wings are functional but I really like the fact the TPC kit allows one to not need a wing keeping the 911 simple and clean lines.

 

But he is also considering adding a Turbo -- making his car a transgendered model. Big money , hard to sell .. and he does have choices.

 

A turbo would obviously be the perfect choice but unlike the new or nearly new .2 the .1 turbo would be an 08 at best and probably still be beyond my ideal budget of $80k

If you can find me a turbo that I can trade my S against for $80k then I'm all ears!

 

I have extensively driven both cars. The 997.1 is a good platform... The 997.2 improves with a stiffer chassis and better electronics... Not to mention the fact that a 997.1 S makes ~315 on our dyno... Our 997.2 put nearly 355 stock and almost 370 after DYNO ecu tuning... Not a flash but after hours on the dyno.

The 997.2 car makes roughly the same power as a 04-05 GT3, and it makes for a great road car...

If you are building a car to take to the track, the .2 or a GT3 is a good car to work with, but I would spend your money in drivers ed and you could pass the competition w/only spending money on swaybars and education.

If you are looking to buy a car that does the quarter mile in the mid 10s... well, we can do that too, with our 997TT platform.

If it were my money, i wouldnt upgrade to a 2nd Gen car from a 1st gen 997... they are way too close in looks and the way they work to go from a 50k trade in to a ~80k car.

If you are looking to expand upon your current platform w/more hp than a 997TT comes with from the factory, Our turbo system is ideal. It retains all factory driving characteristics until you bury your foot in the throttle, you have seen the videos and heard the explanations...

Would be happy to answer questions for you if you have any.

Casey

 

I saw a message other day about a guy who found 2001 (i think) 996 TT with like 2500 miles or so and got it for $50K - that IS a dream buy. but, well, it seems to happen in dreams only.

$80K for a 997 TT - look at cars.com - there are plenty of relatively fresh 2007 turbos for this price, probably just came after lease. they are mostly in mid-80K area but you can find what you want most likely.

Now, of your original question - it all really depends of what do you need car for. If you intend to drive it until wheels will fall off and will take it to track and auto-x only occasionally - I would say - keep current car with TPC turbo on it.
If you need a perfect car for street and do not want to modify it at all, use it as DD - that is new C2S PDK - it will have warranty and full support.

If only for track and sport and do not drive on street - GT3.

turbo - well, here it would be great choice for almost everything if your budget can absorb it, not as much original purchase price but all subsequent mods, repairs, parts, etc. Plus it may take a big push to brake that mental barrier that will try to force you keeping that car a garage queen. I have most respect for Larry and his modded 997TT but I cannot say I understand why to go over all that trouble and get 800 horses on a car if car is never getting a chance to be driven to its limit.

All those advices on a forum I am not even sure what is all that good for. All that stuff is very personal, how can I know what is it you after?
I do not know myself what is it I`m after. As you get hooked on autosport, will that be track or auto-x, you really have no more fun from driving this sled on a street as you simply cannot do anything here that you can do on a track. So it is all a matter of balance, to find that optimal compromise that works best for you and your family.