997 2005-2012 911 C2, C2S, C4, C4S, GTS, Targa and Cabriolet Model Discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Why use a muffler...

Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:25 PM
  #1  
lowpue's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 489
From: MI, Washington
Rep Power: 47
lowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud of
Why use a muffler...

After looking at all of these threads on the gundo Hack, it looks to me that all that we do there is short circuit the muffler. So I have to ask the question, why not just eliminate the muffler completely or does it function as some sort of Resonator. I ask the question because you could just get rid of that weight. Thoughts?
 
Old Mar 14, 2012 | 08:31 PM
  #2  
Matt(inMA)'s Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 508
From: Norwalk
Rep Power: 53
Matt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud of
It's wicked loud without the muffler... they sell bypass pipes I believe for that.

Matt
 
Old Mar 14, 2012 | 09:41 PM
  #3  
MYC2SPC's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 838
From: Ventura,CA
Rep Power: 51
MYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really nice
State laws maybe?lol
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:46 AM
  #4  
PTParks's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 839
From: Central North Carolina
Rep Power: 91
PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !PTParks Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by lowpue
After looking at all of these threads on the gundo Hack, it looks to me that all that we do there is short circuit the muffler. So I have to ask the question, why not just eliminate the muffler completely or does it function as some sort of Resonator. I ask the question because you could just get rid of that weight. Thoughts?
You do not short circuit the muffler, it is still in the flow path and providing some sound attenuation. Trust me, I've heard P cars with the muffler bypass pipes and they are loud.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:17 AM
  #5  
Chimcu's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 169
From: Toronto
Rep Power: 24
Chimcu is a jewel in the roughChimcu is a jewel in the roughChimcu is a jewel in the rough
we have emissions tests here in ONTARIO CANADA.. But once it becomes a classic, just maybe lol
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:21 AM
  #6  
K-E-V's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 720
From: Seattle, WA
Rep Power: 100
K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !K-E-V Is a GOD !
Because it will drone like you would want to kill yourself.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:29 AM
  #7  
lowpue's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 489
From: MI, Washington
Rep Power: 47
lowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud oflowpue has much to be proud of
Thanks guys...so it sounds like even though the Gundo hack is a bypass, the muffler still does attenuate the sound....I would love to understand the science with that.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 07:45 AM
  #8  
NorthVan's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,875
From: Vancouver
Rep Power: 684
NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by MyDreamCar
we have emissions tests here in ONTARIO CANADA.. But once it becomes a classic, just maybe lol
Mufflers don't control the emissions, that is what the Cats are for. Mufflers muffle the sound, or some would say tune the sound that comes out of the car's engine.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:37 PM
  #9  
Matt(inMA)'s Avatar
Registered User
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 508
From: Norwalk
Rep Power: 53
Matt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud ofMatt(inMA) has much to be proud of
so it sounds like even though the Gundo hack is a bypass
,

Not technically a bypass. Think of it as a secondary route for the exhaust. Most is still routed through the muffler.

Matt
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:03 PM
  #10  
Alan C.'s Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,445
Rep Power: 101
Alan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond reputeAlan C. has a reputation beyond repute
Looking at the PO's signature he has a Gen 2 997. So it is possible to eliminate the rear muffler with a Sharkwerks rear muffler bypass kit. It appears that most who have done this are happy with the results.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:06 PM
  #11  
crazycarlitos's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,889
From: SoCal
Rep Power: 161
crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !crazycarlitos Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by NorthVan
Mufflers don't control the emissions, that is what the Cats are for. Mufflers muffle the sound, or some would say tune the sound that comes out of the car's engine.
hence the name muffler..
Originally Posted by lowpue
Thanks guys...so it sounds like even though the Gundo hack is a bypass, the muffler still does attenuate the sound....I would love to understand the science with that.
its not a bypass. it basically creates a different sound/pitch by altering the soundwave.

think of the muffler as a flute.. and covering the various holes in the flute results in different sounds.. and u'll get the idea.

if u just want better sound.. and don't want to switch out the muffler.. (and do not care to pass emission ..) then just get straight pipes to bypass the cat. It will sound loud & great and u will get more hp.
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:40 PM
  #12  
NorthVan's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,875
From: Vancouver
Rep Power: 684
NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !NorthVan Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by crazycarlitos
hence the name muffler..
Correct...tried to make it not so in your face, thanks for adding the colour to my comment!
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:47 PM
  #13  
MYC2SPC's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 838
From: Ventura,CA
Rep Power: 51
MYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really niceMYC2SPC is just really nice
Originally Posted by NorthVan
Mufflers don't control the emissions, that is what the Cats are for. Mufflers muffle the sound, or some would say tune the sound that comes out of the car's engine.
In California they do visual checks along with performing smog tests.They would shoot you down having no mufflers!
 
Old Mar 15, 2012 | 03:56 PM
  #14  
seapar's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 405
From: pacific northwest
Rep Power: 37
seapar is a glorious beacon of lightseapar is a glorious beacon of lightseapar is a glorious beacon of lightseapar is a glorious beacon of lightseapar is a glorious beacon of lightseapar is a glorious beacon of light
I have a C4S with the Sharkwerks center muffler bypass and did a side by side revving with the O.P and his C4S last year and others in the audience could hear the difference. Two thumbs up. Saved the OEM center muffler for whenever.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
C-MAN67
Panamera
11
May 26, 2015 03:09 PM
khairo82
Cayenne 955/957
1
Jan 4, 2012 04:04 PM
cgng30
997 Turbo / GT2
37
Sep 11, 2010 06:41 PM


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:53 AM.