Advice on finding a 09' PDK
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And a fine looking one it is, Katera.Originally Posted by Katera
My 09 C4S Caby has 8k miles /shrug. They are out there
In December right before I bought my car, I test drove a '10 C2 Cab with 4K miles on it here in the Valley. It was a six speed - no nav. Absolutely beautiful car. They were asking $84K and I worked them down to $71K but that is as far as they would go. I walked away.
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Thank you and good learning advice here ryem- So IF every dealer has one (paint meter) and if they refuse to show it, are there some strategies around this to have them do so?Originally Posted by ryem3
Repainted panels or damage is not always on Carfax. Be sure any prospective car is paint metered. If you don't know what that is, do a bit of research and check it out, it will be worth your time. You can easily check if a car has been repainted. Also, EVERY dealer has one. They may or may not be willing to show it to you..
It's a good weekend to head to your local Porsche dealer. Just went to the Boxter Launch party today at Auto Gallery. Got a chance to drive a new Boxter S Cab. What a really nice car. Loaded it's $80K! Nothing close to the power of a 997, but the new Nav is AWESOME. I seriously need to avoid test driving a 991. 
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Basically, you may hear it from a salesman. If you are serious about a car, a manager will find one for you. I GUARANTEE you they will paint meter YOUR car before they take it in trade. The used car manager certainly has one. In any case, a PPI inspection should include a paint meter read at the very least. It measures the thickness of the paint in microns. Even if a completely new panel is installed, an auto body shop will spray that panel and the paint thickness will not match the factory paint. Originally Posted by vg247
Thank you and good learning advice here ryem- So IF every dealer has one (paint meter) and if they refuse to show it, are there some strategies around this to have them do so?
I had one used car genius meter my Porsche through the clear bra. He basically took at least $2k off the value until I told him to pull his head out. (BMW dealer).
Good luck your search and pass on some rep points
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Originally Posted by daberlin
It's a good weekend to head to your local Porsche dealer. Just went to the Boxter Launch party today at Auto Gallery. Got a chance to drive a new Boxter S Cab. What a really nice car. Loaded it's $80K! Nothing close to the power of a 997, but the new Nav is AWESOME. I seriously need to avoid test driving a 991.
If you do test drive and purchase the 991, perhaps I can buy your 997
? On a serious note dab..thanks for sharing, I too received invites for the Boxster launch this week - however I have my heart set on a CPO 997 over a new Boxster (though I have to admit the new body style is sweet)..as always, thanks my friend!
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I had one used car genius meter my Porsche through the clear bra. He basically took at least $2k off the value until I told him to pull his head out. (BMW dealer).
Good luck your search and pass on some rep points.
Very valuable info ryem3- this is extremely helpful info. IF I ever learn enough from you experts I definitely will return the favor to others, continue the tradition, and pass the rep points onOriginally Posted by ryem3
Basically, you may hear it from a salesman. If you are serious about a car, a manager will find one for you. I GUARANTEE you they will paint meter YOUR car before they take it in trade. The used car manager certainly has one. In any case, a PPI inspection should include a paint meter read at the very least. It measures the thickness of the paint in microns. Even if a completely new panel is installed, an auto body shop will spray that panel and the paint thickness will not match the factory paint. I had one used car genius meter my Porsche through the clear bra. He basically took at least $2k off the value until I told him to pull his head out. (BMW dealer).
Good luck your search and pass on some rep points
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? On a serious note dab..thanks for sharing, I too received invites for the Boxster launch this week - however I have my heart set on a CPO 997 over a new Boxster (though I have to admit the new body style is sweet)..as always, thanks my friend!
There was a pretty substantial difference in performance in my 997.2 to the new Boxster S. It's not a fair comparison. But I was really impressed from the old style Boxster to the new one. I agree that it wouldn't change my mind either, but overall it was a real nice refresh to the lineup. I'm gonna stick to my car. I'll wait until the next gen hybrid 991.2 comes out. Originally Posted by vg247
If you do test drive and purchase the 991, perhaps I can buy your 997? On a serious note dab..thanks for sharing, I too received invites for the Boxster launch this week - however I have my heart set on a CPO 997 over a new Boxster (though I have to admit the new body style is sweet)..as always, thanks my friend!
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Originally Posted by daberlin
There was a pretty substantial difference in performance in my 997.2 to the new Boxster S. It's not a fair comparison. But I was really impressed from the old style Boxster to the new one. I agree that it wouldn't change my mind either, but overall it was a real nice refresh to the lineup. I'm gonna stick to my car. I'll wait until the next gen hybrid 991.2 comes out.
Yes indeed they are not "apples to apples" comparisons, I have yet to drive a new Boxster however the exterior changes are quite amazing vs the previous, enjoy the rest of your weekend!
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In December right before I bought my car, I test drove a '10 C2 Cab with 4K miles on it here in the Valley. It was a six speed - no nav. Absolutely beautiful car. They were asking $84K and I worked them down to $71K but that is as far as they would go. I walked away.
Did you purchase a CPO or from private party? Knocking down the price from 84 to 71 is incredible either way. If it is from a dealer, mind sharing which one. I looking for a CPO 2009 and I didn't think I could get them to to take more than 4-5K off asking price.Originally Posted by daberlin
And a fine looking one it is, Katera.In December right before I bought my car, I test drove a '10 C2 Cab with 4K miles on it here in the Valley. It was a six speed - no nav. Absolutely beautiful car. They were asking $84K and I worked them down to $71K but that is as far as they would go. I walked away.
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I purchased my '09 C2 from a private party in January. I agree about your observation on the price reduction (it was right around Christmas '11 when I saw this car) - but I think it was ridiculously priced to begin with than my shrewd negotiating skills Originally Posted by ocgearhead
Did you purchase a CPO or from private party? Knocking down the price from 84 to 71 is incredible either way. If it is from a dealer, mind sharing which one. I looking for a CPO 2009 and I didn't think I could get them to to take more than 4-5K off asking price.
. The car was really nice - it was a '10 base C2 cab six speed, 4K miles, with only a few add ons. It was on the lot at Center BMW right next to Keys Audi here in the Valley. I was VERY tempted - they had just taken it in on a trade for a new 7 series, and I was told they were going to sell it at auction a day or two after I saw it on the lot.If you read the various threads on 'should I buy this car', etc., you'll see that many folks received steep discounts on their car purchases, so don't be so sure you won't have a similar experience.
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I am completely new to this forum and the realm of Porsches..I would like some expert advice on finding the best priced Certified' 09' 911 base model (not S or higher) in PDK (my manual days are over) as my budget would be around $60-$70K.
Since I like to purchase one anytime btw now until December, I am not in a rush, so any advice on best timing due to depreciation especially with the new 2013 911 body styles out is much appreciated.
Some local dealers have these listed anywhere from $66-$75K Certified pre-owned here in NorCAL, and I like to know what some good mileage (10K vs 30K mile car,etc.) on these vehicles should be for an 09' and the better pricing out the door one should expect now or in December, etc.
Lastly, despite these being Certified pre-owned, are there specific mechanical areas I should check for when purchasing this model and year,etc?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my newby questions and for your expert advice.
Originally Posted by vg247
Hello All-I am completely new to this forum and the realm of Porsches..I would like some expert advice on finding the best priced Certified' 09' 911 base model (not S or higher) in PDK (my manual days are over) as my budget would be around $60-$70K.
Since I like to purchase one anytime btw now until December, I am not in a rush, so any advice on best timing due to depreciation especially with the new 2013 911 body styles out is much appreciated.
Some local dealers have these listed anywhere from $66-$75K Certified pre-owned here in NorCAL, and I like to know what some good mileage (10K vs 30K mile car,etc.) on these vehicles should be for an 09' and the better pricing out the door one should expect now or in December, etc.
Lastly, despite these being Certified pre-owned, are there specific mechanical areas I should check for when purchasing this model and year,etc?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my newby questions and for your expert advice.
Possible options? :-)
http://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/3082344806.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3107890993.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/3105494672.html
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/3103606432.html
cars.com is always a good place to look as well...
911 Carrera S 997 120 Price
BASE 911 Carrera S 86,200.00
E9 Midnight Blue Metallic 710.00
E9 Midnight Blue Metallic 0.00
DF Stone Grey Full Leather 3,655.00
810 Floor Mats in Interior Color 140.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 4,080.00
640 Sport Chrono Package Plus 1,320.00
680 Bose High End Sound Package 1,440.00
267 Self Dimming Mirrors 420.00
342 Heated Front Seats 500.00
P15 Pwr Comfort Seats w/Driver Mem 1,550.00
666 Telephone Module for PCM 960.00
686 XM Radio 750.00
446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest 185.00
603 Dynamic Cornering Lights 690.00
672 Navigation Module for PCM 2,110.00
870 Universal Audio Interface 440.00
741 Press Finish 0.00
345 Heated Steering Wheel 190.00
541 Seat Ventilation 800.00
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Total with Options $ 106,140.00
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DSTCHG Destination Charge 950.00
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Total Charges $ 950.00
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Total Order $ 107,090.00
18k miles
Bought for $80k with 13000 miles 2 years ago
Sold for $71k
You can get S for 70k
BASE 911 Carrera S 86,200.00
E9 Midnight Blue Metallic 710.00
E9 Midnight Blue Metallic 0.00
DF Stone Grey Full Leather 3,655.00
810 Floor Mats in Interior Color 140.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 4,080.00
640 Sport Chrono Package Plus 1,320.00
680 Bose High End Sound Package 1,440.00
267 Self Dimming Mirrors 420.00
342 Heated Front Seats 500.00
P15 Pwr Comfort Seats w/Driver Mem 1,550.00
666 Telephone Module for PCM 960.00
686 XM Radio 750.00
446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest 185.00
603 Dynamic Cornering Lights 690.00
672 Navigation Module for PCM 2,110.00
870 Universal Audio Interface 440.00
741 Press Finish 0.00
345 Heated Steering Wheel 190.00
541 Seat Ventilation 800.00
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Total with Options $ 106,140.00
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DSTCHG Destination Charge 950.00
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Total Charges $ 950.00
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Total Order $ 107,090.00
18k miles
Bought for $80k with 13000 miles 2 years ago
Sold for $71k
You can get S for 70k
Scopeit, thanks for posting your 09 C2S. Here is my 09 C2 as a comparison:
911 Carrera 997 Price
BASE 911 Carrera 76300.00
X1 Arctic Silver Metallic 710.00
X1 Arctic Silver Metallic 0.00
810 Floor Mats in Interior Color 140.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 4080.00
640 Sport Chrono Package Plus 1320.00
176 Sport Exhaust 2500.00
267 Self Dimming Mirrors 420.00
342 Heated Front Seats 500.00
686 XM Radio 750.00
446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest 185.00
672 Navigation Module for PCM 2110.00
870 Universal Audio Interface 440.00
850 Sport Design Steering Wheel 950.00
CUV Storage Compartment Lid with Model Logo 415.00
XSC Porsche Crest in Headrests 285.00
XTR Door Guard with Model Logo 415.00
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Total with Options $ 91,520
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DSTCHG Destination Charge 950.00
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Total Charges $ 950.00
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Total Order $ 92,470.00
Car was sold as CPO with 4K miles.
Prior owner added 4 BBS CH-R Wheels, Michelin Super Sport Tires and sensors at 5000 miles: $4,549.00
Prior owner bought new tires, added H&R springs front/rear, and replaced front brake rotors at 20,000 miles
I bought the car with 21,050 miles for $60,250
I paid closed carrier transport from Jackson, MS to Los Angeles, CA: $1200
Total price: $61,450
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I agree with you that you can buy a very nice '09 C2S as yours was for $70K. But as of six months ago (I'm not sure today..), you could NOT buy a similarly low mileage C2S for $60K. $60K was my budget. Actually, $50K was my budget until I drove a PDK!
911 Carrera 997 Price
BASE 911 Carrera 76300.00
X1 Arctic Silver Metallic 710.00
X1 Arctic Silver Metallic 0.00
810 Floor Mats in Interior Color 140.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 4080.00
640 Sport Chrono Package Plus 1320.00
176 Sport Exhaust 2500.00
267 Self Dimming Mirrors 420.00
342 Heated Front Seats 500.00
686 XM Radio 750.00
446 Wheel Caps with Colored Crest 185.00
672 Navigation Module for PCM 2110.00
870 Universal Audio Interface 440.00
850 Sport Design Steering Wheel 950.00
CUV Storage Compartment Lid with Model Logo 415.00
XSC Porsche Crest in Headrests 285.00
XTR Door Guard with Model Logo 415.00
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Total with Options $ 91,520
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DSTCHG Destination Charge 950.00
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Total Charges $ 950.00
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Total Order $ 92,470.00
Car was sold as CPO with 4K miles.
Prior owner added 4 BBS CH-R Wheels, Michelin Super Sport Tires and sensors at 5000 miles: $4,549.00
Prior owner bought new tires, added H&R springs front/rear, and replaced front brake rotors at 20,000 miles
I bought the car with 21,050 miles for $60,250
I paid closed carrier transport from Jackson, MS to Los Angeles, CA: $1200
Total price: $61,450
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I agree with you that you can buy a very nice '09 C2S as yours was for $70K. But as of six months ago (I'm not sure today..), you could NOT buy a similarly low mileage C2S for $60K. $60K was my budget. Actually, $50K was my budget until I drove a PDK!