I think $65,000 for a 2009 C4S with 25k miles is an excellent price. I would jump on it right of way. Don't forget a PPI. GL!!

 

Thanks for a great summary of all the different seat options. I have the later version of the sport buckets and as you say, they are hinged so you can easily get into the back seats. The angle however is fixed and can't be adjusted so the only adjustment is forward and back. I'm 6'3" and I have to say they got it as close to "right" with the factory setting as one can expect trying to please all sizes. But I wonder how a short driver would fare since there's no up or down adjustment.

 

Guys, hope all these questions are ok. This car is not local, so trying to do my home work before I travel to see it. I'd prefer to find something local, but have not found what I like locally, yet.

I am being told these are Sport Bucket seats and I am only 5'6". Do these go up and down or am I going to have to purchase an old copy of the Yellow Pages?

Seat pic:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/97561hy3a5...%2055%20PM.jpg

Thanks,

Jeff

 

Those are the standard seats. They do go up and down along with fore and aft using the horizontal silver switch on the side. The vertical switch controls backrest recline. The round button is lumbar. At your height, you may actually be comfortable in the standard seats, but at 6'1" and 200 lbs, they felt too small to me which is why I upgraded to the Adaptive Sport seats. Not a lot of side bolstering on the standard seats either. If you decide on that car and then want to change the seats, those will be worth between $1,000-$1,500 depending on whether they're full leather or not.

 

One more thought I had for a long distance purchase. If the car is not a Porsche CPO vehicle, ask them to send you a printout of the engine DME information, which will include any engine over-revs and in what range they are. Porsche won't CPO a car with over-revs in the upper ranges, nor will they usually honor a warranty repair/replacement of a major engine failure if the car shows high range over-revs.

A PPI is really mandatory unless buying a CPO car from a Porsche dealer.

 

Are you saying these seats are not Sport Bucket seats as is depicted in the options list the dealer shared with me?

 

The car is a CPO car, warrantied until 2015. So does this mean I don't need the PPI?

 

Those may be what Porsche calls their sport buckets, but they're not what most people call the "Sport Seats". Sport seats have the additional upper wings for better shoulder support, the hard backs, and the larger side bolsters (like these). Technically, I think they're called Adapative Sport Seats, and if they have the extra air bladders for the side bolsters then they're the Adaptive Sport Seat Plus versions. The dealer is probably not mis-representing what those seats are called, their just the standard seats though - not very buckety or sporty.

 

If these are standard seats, why are they shown as a $3,125 option in the option list, on what appears to be the original list showing $18,125 worth of options, bringing total to $111,000 for the car? Which could mean maybe the owner pulled the $3,125 seats and replaced them with these standard seats as per your prior message. I would still buy car if it looks, smells, sounds and drives good in person, but this becomes a $3,000 negotiation point. How can I be sure these are different from the depicted PO3 option.

 

I think you figured out what happened there and those aren't sport buckets. Those are the same seats that came in my car. I looked at my window sticker and it says Driver & Passenger Manual Seats with power backrests, then in the options section there are upcharges for power seat package and full leather.

The sport buckets are a carbon shelled seat that is either 1 piece or has the hinged back, but they're not those. I only want 50% of what I save you

Happy negotiating.

 

Just saw the carfax. Car was driven only 10,000 miles by first owner until 2012. Then new owner drove it for 15,000 miles to get it to 25,000. Car was serviced regularly by 1st owner. 2nd owner had it serviced at 13,000 miles after owning it for 3 months, then there is no record of service from 13,000 to 25,000. My primary concern would be oil/filter changes, which i try to do every 3,000 miles on my cars. Or, is it possible he just had the oil changed by a local place, hence no record. My 2nd concern is, the second owner put on 15,000 miles in NJ, so he probably commuted with the car in most likely a lot of stop and go traffic. Should any of this cause alarm, or am I sweating this too much, which I tend to do before a big purchase, especially a used purchase like my boat, which are always issues no matter what you do..

 

Where in NJ was it registered? if down south, i would say - no issue. if up north or closer to NYC, I would be a little tiny bit concerned.

I had a 07 997.1S 6 speed. Now I drive a 997.2S PDK. I see you are in LI, I live in Brooklyn. I *LOVED* the 6 speed in my previous car but the PDK is so much more convenient around our neck of the woods (Think belt parkway or west side drive)

I will own a manual 911 again some day, but I will also not live in Brooklyn at that point.

 

With the 2nd owner putting on 15,000 miles in about a year, and it being a C4S with AWD, sounds like he may have driven it through the winter salt and sand road treatments. If you don't plan to do that too, you may want to find a more Southern car or one you can verify wasn't driven in the winter.

 

Wow, Porsche on Belt Parkway - I am cringing thinking about the sewers in the left lane! Yes, I am going PDK because traffic can't be avoided in our area and I can definitely see myself commuting to Manhattan on nice days. I lived in Brooklyn for 26 years before heading east..

 

I just wish this car was closer so I can see her before negotiating a price. I did talk a little price with seller, and they are asking 77k and he went down to 73k without much pushing. I did float the 65k # and he said not even close. Assuming car is very clean, any thoughts what the walk away price should be? Is 70k too high? Thanks..