Aftermarket Amplifier install keeping PCM 3 Bose head unit
#1
Aftermarket Amplifier install keeping PCM 3 Bose head unit
Has anyone installed an aftermarket amplifier in a Bose 3.0 system while keeping the factory head unit? There doesn't seem to be too much info regarding this.
There are some nice aftermarket head units out there, but I prefer the stock appearance. I would like the install to be easily reversible with no permanent modifications.
There are some nice aftermarket head units out there, but I prefer the stock appearance. I would like the install to be easily reversible with no permanent modifications.
#2
I'd be interested in this as well. I could not find anyone that makes an interface to go from the PCM MOST to line level outputs. I was thinking about buying a used Bose amp from eBay and tearing it apart to locate the pre-amp line level signal.
#3
This seems silly to me. The speakers are matched to the amp. Once you figure out a way to replace the amp, I'd bet $100 that your next thought would be "Man, these speakers suck now".
I'm a home audiophile, trust me. It's a slippery slope. Do it all at once and save yourself the headache... or don't do it at all. Just my opinion though
I'm a home audiophile, trust me. It's a slippery slope. Do it all at once and save yourself the headache... or don't do it at all. Just my opinion though
#4
This seems silly to me. The speakers are matched to the amp. Once you figure out a way to replace the amp, I'd bet $100 that your next thought would be "Man, these speakers suck now".
I'm a home audiophile, trust me. It's a slippery slope. Do it all at once and save yourself the headache... or don't do it at all. Just my opinion though
I'm a home audiophile, trust me. It's a slippery slope. Do it all at once and save yourself the headache... or don't do it at all. Just my opinion though
#6
Based on the Porsche wiring diagram, there are low level analog signals coming directly out of the PCM going to the BOSE amp.
I wonder if anyone has tested and used the signal from the PCM vs. using the speaker level out of the Bose amp. I know the amp signal would require summing. Not sure of the PCM signal.
I wonder if anyone has tested and used the signal from the PCM vs. using the speaker level out of the Bose amp. I know the amp signal would require summing. Not sure of the PCM signal.
#7
Based on the Porsche wiring diagram, there are low level analog signals coming directly out of the PCM going to the BOSE amp.
I wonder if anyone has tested and used the signal from the PCM vs. using the speaker level out of the Bose amp. I know the amp signal would require summing. Not sure of the PCM signal.
I wonder if anyone has tested and used the signal from the PCM vs. using the speaker level out of the Bose amp. I know the amp signal would require summing. Not sure of the PCM signal.
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#8
Sorry but I can't post the wiring diagram as the sheet I have has a watermark of the purchaser. I don't want to have that name blacklisted by Porsche for future diagrams.
You can purchase the diagram from Porsche directly though.
You can purchase the diagram from Porsche directly though.
#10
I won't claim to be 100% certain about this, but I'm looking at the diagram right now for a 2011 997 Bose PCM3 and it has 8 distinct outputs from the head unit to the bose amp:
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
#11
I won't claim to be 100% certain about this, but I'm looking at the diagram right now for a 2011 997 Bose PCM3 and it has 8 distinct outputs from the head unit to the bose amp:
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
#12
I won't claim to be 100% certain about this, but I'm looking at the diagram right now for a 2011 997 Bose PCM3 and it has 8 distinct outputs from the head unit to the bose amp:
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
RF high, LF high, RF low, LF low C, RR, LR, Sub
It has different input outputs for the optical waveguide.
pcm is NOT bose head.
pcm3 cant live without amp
two options still available - nonbose CAR or bose car
this mean different amps speakers and wiring, pcm is same
nonbose amp called ASK
ASK amp has matched pcm low-level analog inputs.
instead of ASK amp can be used any other aftermarket - only need is REPROGRAMMING pcm3 to NONBOSE option - or will be NO SOUND.
#13
There is a different in and out for the optical wave guide in the diagram.
Again, I'm not making proclamations of what works and doesn't work because I don't know. I'm only reporting what I'm reading on the Porsche wiring diagram named:
"BOSE SOUND PACKAGE -997420 - 2011 -A"
I'm hoping someone who's gone down this path will share their experience.
Last edited by Stage7; 07-03-2014 at 07:29 AM.
#14
No- I'm looking at 8 channel signal outputs coming out of the "Japan Navigation System" going TO the Bose amp. The Bose amp has separate outputs going to the speakers.
There is a different in and out for the optical wave guide in the diagram.
Again, I'm not making proclamations of what works and doesn't work because I don't know. I'm only reporting what I'm reading on the Porsche wiring diagram named:
"BOSE SOUND PACKAGE -997420 - 2011 -A"
I'm hoping someone who's gone down this path will share their experience.
#15
ryem3 - What MOST conversion harness are you referring to? I know there is one to go from a new head unit to the MOST but was not aware of one that provided line level outputs from the MOST bus.