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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Porsche Over Revs./Cancel Warranty

I have been reading several post where porsche is denying issues with over revs or whatever. I think one guy posted that his motor will not be covered because of the over rev or whatever. My question is can this happen in an automatic vs. 6 speed? Also with the new DSG will that be an issue. Just wanting opinions or thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Byronmaui
I have been reading several post where porsche is denying issues with over revs or whatever. I think one guy posted that his motor will not be covered because of the over rev or whatever. My question is can this happen in an automatic vs. 6 speed? Also with the new DSG will that be an issue. Just wanting opinions or thoughts.

Aloha and thank you for your input. Sorry if the post seems confusing.


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I worked at VW before I switched over to Benz, and my hands on with the DSG, this should not be an issue. The DSG will allow you to shift/downshift at your pleasure, but if the computer senses over-rev, it will not allow you to do so.

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I worked at VW before I switched over to Benz, and my hands on with the DSG, this should not be an issue. The DSG will allow you to shift/downshift at your pleasure, but if the computer senses over-rev, it will not allow you to do so.

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DSG should be the way to go then? What about automatic?

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P.S> I have not overreved or whatever but maybe valet or the guy working my car might do it in the future.
 
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DSG should be the way to go then? what about automatic.

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After driving quite a few DSG's, you're going to LOVE the DSG compared to the automatic. It is not stick, but not automatic either. That question is like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. Best way, in my opinion, would be to test drive one and then the other. Some people have certain preferences, and the DSG would be mine. But at the end of the day, for me, nothing is better than rowing through the gears of a manual!

As far as valet...I would definately be concerned about that. I actually still do side-jobs if my friend gets backed up. And being a car enthusiast, and seeing the way some people treat cars....I don't think, if I owned a Geo Metro, I would park it valet.
 
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After driving quite a few DSG's, you're going to LOVE the DSG compared to the automatic. It is not stick, but not automatic either. That question is like comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. Best way, in my opinion, would be to test drive one and then the other. Some people have certain preferences, and the DSG would be mine. But at the end of the day, for me, nothing is better than rowing through the gears of a manual!

As far as valet...I would definately be concerned about that. I actually still do side-jobs if my friend gets backed up. And being a car enthusiast, and seeing the way some people treat cars....I don't think, if I owned a Geo Metro, I would park it valet.
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Yup. Another one too is the Dealership. Some times the Car Porters don't take it easy on a car... I have a lot of clients that ask to NOT have their cars washed, and for either myself or the technician to pull it to the front for them.

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Personally I love 6 speed and would not change. I just feel sorry for the people that have a broken motor because of over rev and they have a voided warranty.

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Personally I love 6 speed and would not change. I just feel sorry for the people that have a broken motor because of over rev and they have a voided warranty.

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Ditto. I have been linked to some Porsche forums, where someone was denied warranty work due to over-rev; I thought I read one about someone's being a CGT.

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Originally Posted by HD Jimbo
Yup. Another one too is the Dealership. Some times the Car Porters don't take it easy on a car... I have a lot of clients that ask to NOT have their cars washed, and for either myself or the technician to pull it to the front for them.

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Its funny cause everyone I know has used my car or dropped it off for repairs. Wonder if any of them over reved it. Oh well life is too short to worry. Just hope some of the people get help from porsche because I have never heard of another company enforcing over revs. like porsche is doing with the 997 and beyond models.

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As mentioned in the other thread, the type of overrev that generally is cause for warranty denial is when you mis-shift into a lower gear (2nd instead of 4th, 3rd instead of 5th, etc.) causing the engine to go above the rev limiter. This is often called a "money shift" because you almost certainly will spend money fixing the damage.

BTW, this cannot happen in a DSG or automatic, as the computer will prevent you from going into a gear that would exceed the rev limiter.
 
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Originally Posted by Byronmaui
Personally I love 6 speed and would not change. I just feel sorry for the people that have a broken motor because of over rev and they have a voided warranty.

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I feel sorrier for the people who have a broken engine not caused by their over rev, but get denied a warranty claim because of their over rev anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by gravedgr
As mentioned in the other thread, the type of overrev that generally is cause for warranty denial is when you mis-shift into a lower gear (2nd instead of 4th, 3rd instead of 5th, etc.) causing the engine to go above the rev limiter. This is often called a "money shift" because you almost certainly will spend money fixing the damage.

BTW, this cannot happen in a DSG or automatic, as the computer will prevent you from going into a gear that would exceed the rev limiter.
Yeah thats what they like you to think but,, they denied mine and i didnt even money shift or do anything of the sort, jsut hit the limiter in neutral,, and im the only one whos driven my car guaranteed.
 
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The reason a warranty would be "canceled'' is when our techs us the PIWIS (Porsche scan tool) computer to diag the cars problem it gives a read out stating how many rpms over redline the car has gone and for how many revolutions it has done so, this read out containing all of the cars info including the rev count is then submitted to Porsche cars North American and they deside if the warranty will cover the problem. It is not up to the dealership to deside, which is very unfortunate because here at Brandywine we look past alot of things like aftermarket parts and such, but in this case our hands are tied.

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I feel sorrier for the people who have a broken engine not caused by their over rev, but get denied a warranty claim because of their over rev anyway.
Whats really interesting is Porsche seems to deny alot of warranty claims. I wonder if its because we drive our cars hard or we are just a tool for them to rape us. I have not heard many problems with ferrari, lambo, etc. regarding warranty claims. Maybe those cars are garage queens thus no need to claim anything. Who knows....


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