Below is a pic of the first Aston Martin Virage to date to be programmed. Removal of speed limiter, raised rpm, increased exhaust volume, etc. Contact us for further information.

 

Do you tune the DBS?

 

How much more power did you make? Also, how much did you increase the rpm rev limiter by, to what rpm? Also do you have dyno charts?

Thanks

 

Increasing the rev limit on the V12 isn't going to help power, the power curve is already in decline when it reaches the current redline.

And top speed is limited by the gearing, not the ECU

And increased exhaust volume will mean opening the exhaust bypass valves at a different speed, removal of fuse 22 leaves the valves constantly open at nil cost.

I'm really not clear what you are offering here.

 

Nice pics of the car! How abt some before and after dynos to go along w them?

 

Actually, I hate to break it to you but we remapped a Virage in Las Vegas on the 3rd of January 2012. I didn't think it was newsworthy because it is basically a DB9 in fancy clothes...

 

Hello boys,

Let's talk about this. First off, the Virage is not a dressed up DB9. Any reputable ECU tool manufacturer will tell you the addresses in the Virage are different to the DB9 and couldn't be programmed the same way. In simple terms, if the addresses are different, there is no way the tool will communicate with the ECU's. We know this because we have data logs, emails, correspondence to and from the tool manufacturers. A car was also given to us by a local Aston Martin dealership to experiment on.

We programmed this Virage with a test protocol which will be released in the coming weeks for OTHER TUNERS (again, we have emails from the tool manufacturer to confirm this)....your welcome boys

For others who have not seen the contents of this file (again, these ECU's were not able to be read), then please do not make accusations or assumptions on how to tune this vehicle. For the general public, every tuner tunes differently. What you receive from Tuner A can be totally different than what you receive from Tuner B. In most cases when there is no tool supporting a vehicle, then most likely cannot be tuned.

For those who have any questions or concerns regarding this vehicle or any tune, please contact us via phone.

 

Gains are 51hp & 43lbs tq. RPM is increased by 200-300 rpm (we do this for customers who insist on having it raised.

We will put this car up on the dyno once we are finished with the new F10 M5 (2 weeks).

 

Yes, we can tune this car. Gains are 53 hp & 44 lbs tq.

 

You're absolutely correct, the addresses for the Virage and the DB9 are not the same. That isn't really saying much though, since the addresses for the V8 Vantage are not all the same, even within the same model year so saying that the addresses are not the same between the DB9 & Virage is not a revalation. The read/write protocols are the same however. YOU might not have been able to read the Virage, but we had no problem doing it and successfully programmed our first car on January 3rd of this year.

Just because the tool maker does not support the vehicle officially doesn't mean it cannot be successfully programmed. For example, you could successfully program the V8 Vantage long before tool manufacturers recognized and listed the protocols by using Ford protocols. I guess if you are dependent upon the tool manufacturer to write the map drivers and identify the addresses for you then yes, you would be limited to what they offer you.

Since we write not only our own files but our own map drivers, we're not dependent upon the tool makers to allow us to tune vehicles. The read/write protocols on the tools we use are the same for the Virage as they are for the DB9. If you have the capability in-house to identify addresses and write your own map drivers then you can successfully tune a Virage long before the tool manufacturer lists it, just as we did on January 3rd, 2012.

I'm not making accusations or assumptions, I just jumped in to let you know that your assumption that you were the first people in the world to tune a Virage was factually inaccurate. Just because the tool manufacturer you have chosen didn't have this capability doesn't mean you were the first, there are lots of tool manufacturers available, I'm sure you don't use all of them, neither do we so I would never claim to be the 'first' to tune for this application.

You're welcome boys.

 

Wow, those gains are unbelievable, given a return of around 3BHP per degree of spark advance to a maximum of 3 degrees onto 93 PON Fuel and a leaning the fuel mixture from high .70's to around .9 yields a benchmark figure of around 20BHP.

 

How do you know what the gains are if you didn't put the car on a dyno yet?

If you at least quoted believable figures people might actually believe you.

 

I think this is where you're falling down guys. The tool will communicate with the ECU just fine based on the correct firmware being programmed into the tool. If the firmware is correct it will read fine (as in the case of the Virage on the DB9 firmware.) Identifying the addresses within the map, and writing the correct map driver for it is a totally different kettle of fish. If you don't know the correct addresses for that particular map and you change the values in the wrong map addresses, then your dash will light up like a Christmas tree but it is factually inaccurate to say that the tool won't communicate with the ECUs just because you don't know the correct addresses to modify.

 

How about a proof?

 

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