And don't forget the chip reflash discussed on the thread here. It looked like that got the AMv8 4.3 liter up to 375rwhp, which is near 450hp. (flywheel rating)
Sure there might have been other bolt ons like the exhaust as well, but the point is. That's some pretty simple upside for the potential for mods vs a cayman or any other Porsche. The upside for performance potential is something worth mentioning in the discussion of "sacrifice " when comparing one vs another.l

 

Again you make assumptions. No one is challenging you or your stance.

 

Not really making any assumptions. Straight HP/Weight, car geometry, and absolute weight . The only assumption is that someone making the call has adequate experience to really be a judge, and that the cars all have the same tires when being compared.
Bottom line, the Aston is not any kind of sacrifice in performance vs a Cayman. Its just different. And with that, it's personal preference. But if you are going to compare known facts, the Aston points to be slightly better for track duty, even bone stock. AND, in the hands of pros, the Aston would have the edge based on what I know about the two cars, with no assumptions made.

 

I can't figure out if you are being serious or trolling all of us. Do you really not get what others are saying to you? If you are trolling, I commend you for your dedication but if you are serious....

 

I test drove a 2014 Vantage S yesterday. I was fortunate enough to be able to drive it over some of the very same roads I drive my CS. which allowed an excellent opportunity for direct comparison.
My impressions:
the Engine and exhaust sound are incredible, the S, as does the GT, has a Sport Exhaust system, the car sounds absolutely incredible, exactly what a v8 should sound like. It has a very smooth engine with great torque. I was amazed how much quicker the S felt than my CS. From what I can tell online it does have a 0-60 time of about 4 seconds flat and I was surprised how perceptible the difference in power was from my CS. The throttle response was excellent.
But aside from it's aesthetics and v8 sound and power, that was about all the vantage had over my CS for me in terms of driving experience. The CS, to me, is just so much more of an immediate, electric experience. The vantage felt less connected and direct. I could feel its greater weight, more body roll and less flat feel. The S definitely felt better than the 2010 vantage v8 I drove, but it still didn't leave me grinning like I did the first time I ever drove a 981 S. Even the driving position and view didn't fit me as well, there's less visibility and you don't feel like you're right on the road like you do with the CS.
In the end, for me it was just as I suspected, I think the CS will actually bring me overall more driving fun and joy. But as for which car pulls at my heart strings more, it has to be the vantage, the v8 and its look just grab me. I am still in contemplation about whether I should make the move, but as pointed out above if the vantage GT allocations are sold out in Canada as well, it might all be moot, aside from keeping my eye out for a pre-owned one down the road.

 

Baege, I can't say I'm surprised by your review. The Cayman S is a much tighter car and more engaging because that's what it's meant for. It's an amazing car to say the least but is totally different than an Aston. If you haven't seen it, check out this Autocar review of the new GTS. This review even had me do a little more research on the Cayman .

 

Good god, let it end...

Oops! Sorry, I seem to have lost my inner monologue.

 

#closethread


It's like Religion; language is just not capable of summing up the Aston experience.

 

[QUOTE=RossL;4122715]Baege, I can't say I'm surprised by your review. The Cayman S is a much tighter car and more engaging because that's what it's meant for. It's an amazing car to say the least but is totally different than an Aston. If you haven't seen it, check out this Autocar review of the new GTS. This review even had me do a little more research on the Cayman QUOTE]


I like when he gets to the track in the Cayman and he talks about how balanced the car is...... funny, as he is doing successive drifts through the corners! Its a fun, light , nimble car..... but its not the Vantage!
I would mop that guy up so bad on the track in a vantage S, it would make his head spin, and I would celebrate by high fiving the second place car, the Toyota MR2 turbo.

 

XWCGT, I'm putting you on ignore since you seem to fail basic comprehension and also can't let things go. You are as bad as a troll, or a troll. Take your pick.

Either way, the guy likes his Cayman better.

/end of thread

 

Baege,

I'm not surprised by your review either. The V8V is quite a bit heavier than the Cayman, and obviously it is front (mid)-engined rather than rear-mid-engined. I'm glad you drove the S (which I'm assuming had the sport suspension, although not all do), since IMO the sport suspension feels considerably sharper than the standard setup.

FWIW, if you're still feeling drawn to the Vantage, I think one gets used to the additional weight and how the car feels after spending more time in one and gaining familiarization. Of course, it will never feel as light and nimble as a beautifully balanced and lighter mid-engined car, since, well, it is neither lighter nor mid-engined If you're tempted, perhaps the way to go is to buy a used Vantage (with the sport suspension) and see how you like living with it. That way, if you don't love it, you can sell it and lose far less on depreciation than you would if you bought one new. Or keep the Cayman, of course -- it's a great car.

 

Technically, mid-engined is mid-engined whether the engine is in the front or the back.

 

Yep!
And, a lot of projection going on here with ole Rossi.

 

what did i miss?

 

Baege wanted to know if the AMv8 sacrificed anything to the cayman as far as performance
RossL said It did, the AMV8 is hands down the lesser performer
XWCGT said they were at least equal, buy most all metrix and it would boil down to personal preference.
RossL then called XWCGT some "names". (Because he didn't agree with him and provided facts to counter act his feelings and personal preferences) and he took his ball and went home.


I think that about sums it up.