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Air from the turbos still has to go through the intercoolers so it's not like having the turbos in the V means air goes straight into the motor. Short piping is mainly due to where the intercoolers are placed.
Not exactly. The point is to get them as close to the cylinders as possible so that the exhaust gasses are as hot as possible when they are spooling the turbo. The further the turbo is from the combustion chamber, the more the gasses will have cooled by the time they reach the turbo, thus increasing lag.
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The looks have grown on me, although the headlights still look out of proportion. I still love Aston Martin as a brand, but I can't say the new Vantage will be my next car. Spec'd to be similar to my current Vantage S, my spec hits 185K before title and Tax (9.25%). So really, its a 200K spec. I can't stomach losing 40-45% of the car's value over 2 years, even with keeping miles low. I was holding out for this new car, thinking I'd re-up with Aston, but at this point my fun car strategy is to part with my current Aston, lease something else for a bit, and maybe re-enter the brand in 3 years time when there are some good 2 year old, slightly used examples, or a face lifted mid cycle car that addresses some of the less favorable design cues. Bummer...
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Not exactly. The point is to get them as close to the cylinders as possible so that the exhaust gasses are as hot as possible when they are spooling the turbo. The further the turbo is from the combustion chamber, the more the gasses will have cooled by the time they reach the turbo, thus increasing lag.
I haven't looked at every V engine with twin turbos, but a lot of times the turbos are part of the exhaust manifold; just normally on the outside of the motor. My 1995 300ZX TT had the turbos this way. So the turbos are just as close to the motor as with the hot-V configuration. Single turbos on a boxer motor, like my STi, make for longer plumbing.
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I haven't looked at every V engine with twin turbos, but a lot of times the turbos are part of the exhaust manifold; just normally on the outside of the motor. My 1995 300ZX TT had the turbos this way. So the turbos are just as close to the motor as with the hot-V configuration. Single turbos on a boxer motor, like my STi, make for longer plumbing.
Having the turbos inside the V makes sure less heat escapes before them than having the turbos outside the V, as they are on the Z32TT (and every twin turbo V engine I've ever seen). (I meant to include that point in my original post. It is true that they aren't necessarily closer than having them on the outside of the V, that thought just escaped my mind as I was posting.)

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I don't really like turbo charged cars, but it's going to be on almost every new car going forward except electrics of course. I don't like the lag (can be dangerous even), generally don't like the sound, and HATE all the plumbing. Trying to chase down leaks is an art into itself. But they are fast.

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Having the turbos inside the V makes sure less heat escapes before them than having the turbos outside the V, as they are on the Z32TT (and every twin turbo V engine I've ever seen). (I meant to include that point in my original post. It is true that they aren't necessarily closer than having them on the outside of the V, that thought just escaped my mind as I was posting.)

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Did see the new V8 Vantage in real life too one week ago, and..............I am not impressed.

It totally does NOT give you the feeling it is an Aston Martin. It is not stylisch and understated anymore. This concerns both the outside (no consistent design, the front is too weak) and the inside (too much Focus RS / Audi TT imho). Probably a car ment only for the "new markets"?

I remember the first time I did see the previous V8 Vantage in real life and I was impressed and did want to buy it for sure (as I did, and enjoyed it for more than 5 years, now I enjoy my DBS).

There was also a Vanquish Zagato Volante present (ready for delivery), not a fan of the Zagato's, but more stylish than the new V8 Vantage imho.

Let's hope the new DBS/Vanquish later this year will make up for it!
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