I considering the purchase of a 2016 V8Vantage GTS with a Sportshift. Is the Sportshift in the 2016 different than the Sportshift in a 2009 ?
The car only has 4000 miles on it and is Timeless certified with a warranty. They are asking $89800. What do you think would be a fair price?
Thanks for any advice.

 

hi gene! welcome back! it's my understanding the newer models have updated 7 speed versions of ASM that are improved... My 2009 ASM with new clutch performs well for me, so I'd image the newer versions would perform as well or better... not sure if any versions have improved on the factory OEM clutch... many folks are putting in aftermarket 2 piece clutch and lightweight flywheel for improved performance. you can't installed the improved AMR factory clutch in the ASM... it's only for manuals

 

The above depreciation table was created by V8VDREW for 2020. It now being 2021, the Vantage you are interested in is now one year older so you need to interpolate or just use the 2015MY figure above. Personally I think the asking price is way too high by at least $10K regardless of the mileage.

I looked at a 2016 Vantage manual with 2100 miles for $77,500 but walked due to headlight and taillight condensation issues that the seller was unwilling to negotiate on.

 

2009 Vantages came with 6-speed Sportshift I gearboxes, while 2012-2016 cars had the updated Sportshift II 7-speed. Only the V12 Vantage S ever received the Sportshift III

 

I thought those GT car were lower end version of the Vantage and started at $99,999 usd when new ?

 

I think there's a difference between the GT and GTS spec cars.

 

Without seeing the car or having more details about how it is spec'd, $89k seems high IMHO. For reference - I bought my manual GTS roadster in 2018 with only 700 on the clock for a few grand more than what this seller is asking. My car is a Lux and has most of the convenience options one would want.

@handyman2009 - yes, the GT cars were an entry-level and lower-optioned version of the V8 Vantage intended to get the price down and draw new customers to the brand. However, the GT could be optioned pretty much any way the buyer wanted which negated the lower entry-level price. When I was looking for my car I found GT cars with options all over the place.

The GTS' are the last 100 V8 Vantages of the generation that were built - so IMHO they are a little special in my opinion. Mechanically, they really aren't any different than any other Vantage. The GTS a GT with S mechanicals, hence the designation.

 

And FWIW, for any SporrtShift car you are considering you would definitely want to take it to an Aston dealer who can read out the clutch wear.

There are plenty of posts here about the SportShift and clutch wear. AM can tell you exactly how much life is left on the clutch. The trans in the 2016 would be a SportShift II and clutch life is highly dependent upon how the car was drive and whether or not the owner knew and allowed the car to perform the clutch learn procedure at each start up. You will find people that had their SS clutches last anywhere from 10k to 20k miles while others had their clutch replaced as early as 7k.

I'm not trying to scare you off from buying a SportShift - I almost bought one myself - I am just trying to educate you on what you need to be looking for.

Replacing the clutch is not a cheap job so you want to make sure what you are buying has been taken car of to this point in the cars life. Again, an AM dealer can tell you exactly how much life is left in the clutch. The last thing you want is to get the car and within a year or two have to drop $5k on a new clutch.

 

The GT cars did come with less options, but has the 430 hp S engine and suspension.

The GTS was US only limited to 100 and came with more options and the same S engine and suspension. $89K is high especially for a sportshift. You are approaching a 2015 V12 sportshift for that kind of money. 2016 has the updated sportshift II compared to 2009 which had the I.

 

Mike at Bamford Rose has a video on SS 2. However he said SS2 is what he would take if he has twin plate clutch over a manual.