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Old Sep 12, 2021 | 08:23 PM
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2010 V8 Vantage Clutch goes to the floor

I did the annual service on my 2010 Vantage today. Oil/filter change and brake fluid flush went fine but when I bled the clutch (with a pressure bleeder at the brake fluid reservoir) I initially got good fluid flow from the bleed nipple, then a few seconds in, it started to sputter with air and fluid which did not seem right so I closed the bleed valve. Went back up top and the clutch now has no resistance and just goes to the floor (and stays there). I tried bleeding some more, got a bit more fluid out but still not right. Tried pumping the clutch instead of power bleeding but the pedal doesn't seem to do anything at all it just flops from fully up to fully down with no resistance. Any thoughts? I will contact my indie mechanic tomorrow but would rather avoid a tow and DIY if there is a fix here.

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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 04:23 AM
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I would imagine that the Motive bleeder and reservoir ran dry. I would refill and re-bleed the brakes and clutch again. I am not sure, but I think you do the brakes first, farthest to closest then the clutch.

Did you check if the reservoir was dry? I don't want to give a 101 type answer, but that is all I could think of, you pushed air into the system and it needs to be bled out. I just did the exact same thing as I was finishing up bleeding my sons brakes.
 
Old Sep 13, 2021 | 05:31 AM
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That is how I do it also, all brakes first (furthest to closest to the reservoir) than the clutch
 
Old Sep 13, 2021 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by usera
I would imagine that the Motive bleeder and reservoir ran dry. I would refill and re-bleed the brakes and clutch again. I am not sure, but I think you do the brakes first, farthest to closest then the clutch.

Did you check if the reservoir was dry? I don't want to give a 101 type answer, but that is all I could think of, you pushed air into the system and it needs to be bled out. I just did the exact same thing as I was finishing up bleeding my sons brakes.
Thanks usera. At the time, I was 99% certain I had enough fluid in the reservoir that it did not run dry (and of course I checked it right after I bled the clutch to see and it seemed to be low but not empty - of course RBF600 is pretty clear and hard to see level in a frosted reservoir) but the more I think about it, the less I am sure. I can't really think of anything else either so despite my near certainty that I had enough fluid, you may be right. I'll get a few more bottles of brake fluid and try again today and report back here.

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Old Sep 13, 2021 | 06:19 AM
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That is how I do it also, all brakes first (furthest to closest to the reservoir) than the clutch
That is exactly what I did yesterday. But of course, if I ran the reservoir dry as usera suggests, then it was all moot and I have to start all over again...
 
Old Sep 13, 2021 | 06:32 AM
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This is the one part of brakes I leave to others... flush and bleed brakes I let the dealer do. $200 because I know they also do my ASM clutch line also.

hopefully it's just a re-do.
 
Old Sep 13, 2021 | 01:40 PM
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I dont know out of my head how it is in my V8V, but on most other cars I remember the reservoir exit for the clutch is further up than the brakes (which are usually at the lowest point).
Thats because in case of a leaking clutch line, you still have functioning brakes...
 
Old Sep 13, 2021 | 04:47 PM
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OK update time- you guys were right, I let the fluid level get too low and as TR-Spider suggests the clutch pickup is quite a bit higher in the reservoir so I got some air in there... All sorted now and back to normal function!
 
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