check engine P2187 flying spur 09 "system lean at idle"
#1
check engine P2187 flying spur 09 "system lean at idle"
Hi all:
Just bought a 2009 flying spur. Two days after taking it home, check engine light comes on. Dealer says i'm SOL.
Advance auto parts read the code to be P2187 "system too lean at idle bank 1"
I'm in the process of finding a mechanic, but haven't found one yet that will work on Bentleys.
Anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong with the car? Any common known issues to cause this?
Thanks!
Chris
Just bought a 2009 flying spur. Two days after taking it home, check engine light comes on. Dealer says i'm SOL.
Advance auto parts read the code to be P2187 "system too lean at idle bank 1"
I'm in the process of finding a mechanic, but haven't found one yet that will work on Bentleys.
Anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong with the car? Any common known issues to cause this?
Thanks!
Chris
#3
You really need to hook it up to a VAG-COM reader to get more detailed information. The standard OBDII readers aren't going to tell the whole story. There are many possible causes for it to throw that code.
#4
18619/P2187/008583 - Bank 1; System too Lean at Idle
Possible Causes
Injectors leak/blocked
Air Intake Leak (after MAF)
Exhaust Leak
Possible Solutions
Check Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
Check Injector(s)
Check Fuel Pump
Check Activated Charcoal Filter (EVAP) System Solenoid Valve 1 (N80)
Special Notes
When found in the NAR 2.0T (BPY) check RVUTB: 01-09-03 or 2018919 for updated Crankcase Breather Valve
If the breather valve is faulty, full engine vacuum is typically found when removing the oil cap at idle.
Possible Causes
Injectors leak/blocked
Air Intake Leak (after MAF)
Exhaust Leak
Possible Solutions
Check Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
Check Injector(s)
Check Fuel Pump
Check Activated Charcoal Filter (EVAP) System Solenoid Valve 1 (N80)
Special Notes
When found in the NAR 2.0T (BPY) check RVUTB: 01-09-03 or 2018919 for updated Crankcase Breather Valve
If the breather valve is faulty, full engine vacuum is typically found when removing the oil cap at idle.
#6
Hmm, I had a pressure high bank 2 (during startup error that triggered the engine light) and had to change the front/center Bosch bit. VW part 07C906051
Easy to fix, yet don't think that is the same prob as yours
ADDED: If it is the known defective hose just over the transmission.... engine out time. Bentley refuses to make it right even on low mileage cars so plan on $3.5k cost to replace a $100 hose.
Easy to fix, yet don't think that is the same prob as yours
ADDED: If it is the known defective hose just over the transmission.... engine out time. Bentley refuses to make it right even on low mileage cars so plan on $3.5k cost to replace a $100 hose.
Last edited by stevenrmusic; 01-05-2016 at 02:10 PM.
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#10
UPDATE (and questions for you all):
I haven't had a chance to bring the car to a mechanic. But i do have some updates on what the car is doing, and have some questions for you all.
The check engine light is now intermittent. It goes off right after i re-fuel, and stays off for a day or two, before coming back on. And the car is now showing symptoms; every once in a while, the car sputters at idle and sounds like it's going to stall. But if i tap the gas pedal a bit, the car seems fine.
Any ideas as to what the issue might be, now, with this new information?
I haven't had a chance to bring the car to a mechanic. But i do have some updates on what the car is doing, and have some questions for you all.
The check engine light is now intermittent. It goes off right after i re-fuel, and stays off for a day or two, before coming back on. And the car is now showing symptoms; every once in a while, the car sputters at idle and sounds like it's going to stall. But if i tap the gas pedal a bit, the car seems fine.
Any ideas as to what the issue might be, now, with this new information?
#12
Uh oh, that sounds like the symptoms of the dreaded engine out air leak to fix the hose atop the transmission. Plan on about $3500 to fix it. Hope you got a reeeeeeeeally good deal on that car.
#13
Well the car is FIXED. I wanted to update for anyone who might search and find this similar issue.
It turned out to be a malfunctioning MAF sensor. The part was ~$800 and with labor (at $174/hr...) came to $1400, done at my Bentley dealership. A lot simpler than we all thought, eh?
It turned out to be a malfunctioning MAF sensor. The part was ~$800 and with labor (at $174/hr...) came to $1400, done at my Bentley dealership. A lot simpler than we all thought, eh?
#15
Hello cduluk1,
I am sorry to say this, but you got hosed, you paid $800.00 for a $140.00ish part, then you paid $600.00 in labor for 3.44 hours of labor for a piece that can removed and replaced in say 10-20 minutes, even less when you know what you are looking at, and I am sure some of those 3.44 hours went towards diagnostics, but what, an hour, maybe 2, and to top it off you do not even need to buy the whole complete MAF at $140.00, you can purchase just the meter at $55.00.....
This just makes me
Bosch 0280218073 Air Mass Sensor
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-Volkswa...913044?vxp=mtr
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...meter&tbm=shop