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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Haze on black paint

I tried a search and didn't find anything about this.

Been having this issue with the hood, top front of the bumper and sides of the fenders getting a haze on it. Almost like a smoke film. I think it's the lack of a hoodliner and the heat is doing something to the detailing products etc. I've tried to use different brands but no luck. Doesn't go away after it cools.

Anyone else have this issue? Looks nice before I leave home and once it gets hot it looks like **** till I spray detail it after it cools. Driving me crazy.
 
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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I would clay bar it to start from scratch
 
Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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I did bar it the day after I got it home. Then tried out things to see what results I'd get. Broke out the Griot's paint prep to clean the paint, used Meguiars Ultimate compound and then Meguires Gold class wax. Still does the same thing. Just not as bad.

I give up......
 
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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i saw a black (or another dark color) car yesterday with this same problem and I thought of you! hahaOn my 2000 black audi which has been through snow, salt, mud, shipyard oversprayed, and cruises though the hood (for entertainment purposes only), I only use a standard wax after I clay it. I don't have this problem.Are you applying it when the paint is hot or maybe leaving too much on?
 
Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Paint is not hot, cool and in the garage. After it cools I just spray detail it. I was out today in the 100+ heat and it wasn't too bad. Maybe too much heat now.......
 
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you're using spray detail? yea those things suck IMO
 
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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What do you suggest to use for quick clean ups? after washing to clean water spot drips and runs? I think this Slick detail spray is working ok. Forgot I had it. After a couple of washes I'll try something different. This is not my first black ride but the first one to do such a thing. Gotta be having no hood liner and all the heat. Porsche is not use to having the engine in the front?

I hate detailing but it has to be done. I'd rather rip the motor out, take it apart and put it back together then detailing. Something I just hate but must be done, gotta try to keep it looking good......
 
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Yea i agree...detailing is a PITA. All work just to get the car to look the way its supposed to.In theory the clear coat paint should be good enough to look shiny and technically you shouldn't need anything.Its when debris sticks in the clear that it looks like it needs products. So then we clay it to remove the debris lodged in the paint. Then slowly over the time more dirt and products stick into the clear coat again and its time for another clay.You said you clayed it recently so it has to be the spray wax. I don't use that stuff it because they leave an oily residue. And the heat just kills it. If you must use any wax use a traditional buff on/off style
 
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This is what I use to get the water off from my cars.
 
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I use the same thing but smaller. Still get those drips that need attention after driving. I could probably use one of those no spot rinse filter systems.
 
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The drips left by water is actually but water that can't evaporate like salt and minerals. Liquid detail is not going to fix that. All you need to do is wipe off the drips and stop wasting your money or that stuff. Its good for looking good for a short period of time and thats about it. Technically a good clear coat shouldn't need any wax
 
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Thanks, I'm going to switch up my detailing habits and see how it works.
 
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I had that issue after I purchased a used black Z06 and polished it with my porter cable orbital along with 3M polish to get the swirl marks out. The swirl marks went away, but the milky look arrived. I've heard of a lot of guys complaining about the haze on their black cars after the polish phase.
 
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Technically a good clear coat shouldn't need any wax
A properly applied coat of wax will not only make my car look better than yours but also help preserve the clear coat and underlying paint. Doesn't have to be a $1000 tub of Swissvax. Some $20 Collinite would do just as well. If not for the looks, then use a coat of wax as a 'sacrificial' layer when exposed to the elements.
 
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That's exactly what I'm having, milky look and it's now the entire truck. Or I'm just noticing it now. Spreading like a rash...... This is not my first black vehicle either but the first time this has happened to me. I need to do something and I'm not about to pay $1000 for a detail. I'm done with that. Gotta keep the selective spending on point.

I'm going to try and cleanse the paint real good, don't know with what products yet but I'm doing some homework on it. I've clay bar'd it twice. The 2nd time I used my foam gun to keep it slick. And then just carnauba wax.

Anyone have their personal flavor of products to clean the paint or strip it safely of all the old chemicals?

I did use Griot's paint cleaner once. Like an Alcohol type product.
I saw detailersdomain selling some Iron cut product.
 


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