Hmmm... seems another complaint has been registered with NHTSA. Dunno why NHTSA removes all paragraph breaks and capitalizes everything:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/...od_ids=1433775

Look under the complaints tab..

 

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/panamera/391141-panamera-2011-3-6-engine.html

 

A "cracked" camshaft is NOT the same problem. And it sounds like a one-off.

 

I've heard from a reputable source that the V6 may suffer from the same sort of failure. Perhaps the same vendor made their Variocam adjuster?

 

Accordinv to my dealer they only replaced the camshafts bolts for NA engines .

 

Your dealer is misinformed or lying to you. Not a surprise. WC-22 covers both NA and Turbo engines, Cayenne and Panamera.

Look at: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ml#post4524693

 

Was at the dealers today for a new rear wiper (car wash paying for it..) and got to chatting with one of the service-writers about WC-22. He again looked it up vs my VIN# and said my CTT wasn't included in the WC. Nothing new there..

So I asked him to give me an estimate on the cost to me - to have them do it. Surprisingly, it wasn't awful.

Parts came to $1507
Labor came to: $1080 (8 hours)
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So total around $2600.

I may tell them to order the parts.. prices on the parts reflect a reasonable discount off "List" (the camshaft adjusters - $567/each)

Figure if/when NHTSA/DOT comes out with the recall it will require Porsche to reimburse people who had the work done already, so it's basically going to be a wash, eventually, hopefully.

SWMBO wants to do another coast-2-coast-2-coast trip (this would make #5 for me - 3 by car so far, and 1 by motorcycle), and I don't want to worry about the thing barfing the engine someplace in Bummfook North Dakota (or "Dakota" as they want to change it to - it sounds less cold that way..)

Thinking how to broach this to her..

 

I was given a worse case estimate $4500 when the camshaft bolts on my Panamera 4S went south. Hard to compare these 2 estimates though.

 

Yours undoubtedly included fixing bent valves and such..

 

Hi guys, I work for an attorney that litigates auto defect cases (individual and class actions) and I heard about this defect from a client of ours. I can't say if this particular defect is class action material or not but if you've had this issue I would highly recommend filing a complaint with NHTSA if you're in the USA (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/), and let me know if you find out anything more regarding Porsche's knowledge of the bolt defect. I wrote up an article that quickly goes over everything I heard firsthand and from these forums (http://www.bestattorney.com/blog/por...comes-to-light) but i'm sure as this happens to more people there will be more to write about in the future.

 

great article. i wonder if PCNA would come across it and what they might say.

what i find irritating is that the WC22 doesn't state the months of production for the 3,509 cars impacted by the issue. my car is a 2012 CTT with a production date of 9/2011 and has the part number which the WC22 says to replace. but my vin is not included in the wc22 bulletin.....

 

Hi - nice article - mostly correct - but when I tried to post a comment, that wasn't allowed due to your firewall (seems odd to have a comment entry form, then forbid entering comments.. but..) Anyway - here is what my comment was:

One other point - the WC-22 campaign calls for the replacement as a unit of the Variocam adjusting units (aka: Camshaft Adjusters) which now come with steel bolts in place of the aluminum ones. Cost per is list $688.99/each. Two of them must be replaced. There is an additional ~$400 worth of parts called for replacement in WC-22, mostly mounting bolts and valve cover gaskets.

BTW - there have been several additional complaints registered with the NHTSA website. Thanks to the people who did so. Anyone who has experienced the failure would be doing the other Cayenne owners a big favor by filling in the form on the NHTSA website.

 

Neither is mine - but mine has the aluminum bolts. I would say any V8 with the aluminum bolts should get them replaced just based on the number of failures we've seen reported of other Cayennes/Panameras that weren't included in the WC-22 VIN range.

 

Mine is in getting the camshaft adjusters replaced today.. WC-22. It is coming out of my pocket.

Bad part is - I gotta pay for it. Good part is - I get the old parts back, so I can take a looksee at the bolts and see if they could be replaced in-situ or not (my guess is - not - probably in there with red Loctite..)

Have a Q3 Audi loaner. It's certainly not a Cayenne. Feels rubbery. Interior is spartan and mostly black plastic. I guess it's good on mileage.

Will report back when I get the P!G back..

 

Good stuff, interested to hear your thoughts on the bolts once you get a chance to inspect them.

I ended up spending the money on a warranty. I'll probably do the bolts if they don't go while under the warranty or if I decide to keep the car.