I used menzerna SIP polish followed by menzerna 106... then waxed the car with pinnacle wax... car looks great TILL its out in the bright sun.. I have what looks like a haze.. like u can see the towel marks in the paint.. maybe its what you guys call halograms? what can i do to remove them and not get them back? I used a micro fiber towel to remove the products... is there a better cloth to use to eliminate the haze.. is it maybe the wax itself that left a haze.. should I use a diferent brand wax? My car is a midnight blue 996tt.. like I said it looks great in the shade.. but the bright sun shows the haze..
thanks

 

If you used a buffer than its probably holograms which were caused by moving the buffer too fast across the surface of the paint. Also before you applied the wax did you wipedown the finish with an Isopropyl alcohol and water mix? That will remove any left over polishing oils or unbroken down polish. Menzerna tends to leave polishing oils behind and that might be the cause of this "haze" you speak of. If you want to remove the holograms use a very light polish and soft pad and use super slow passes with the buffer to work them out.

Either way this is what you need

- strip the wax using isopropyl alcohol and water mix (1:1)
- re polish the paint with a light polish on low speed using slow slow passes
- wipedown the finish thoroughly again with the IPA mix to ensure your ready for wax and no polishing oils remain
- re apply your wax

 

Which machine did you use with the Menzerna products, a rotary or dual action polisher? If you used a rotary it may be holograms but it is hard to tell without pictures. What I would recommend is post some pictures of it so we can see exactly what you are talking about. Without pictures this is what I would do. I would wash the car with P21S autowash to make sure no wax is on the car, synthetic or carnuba. Then dry the car and put it in the sun to see how it looks. If it looks good then I would use either Zymol HD Cleanse, P21S cleansing lotion, or Swisswax cleaner fluid before applying the carnuba wax of your choice, I guess Pinnacle. If you have the hazing after the wash with the P21S autowash, it is probably some hazing due to polishing. You may have to try 106FA or PO85rd another time around. Hope this helps a little. Let me know if you have any other questions. Good luck!!!

 

Wow smoke, me and you replied almost at the same time. Looks like we agree with the process he may have to do.

 

SIP hazed your paint, you didn't work the 106 in enough to take it out. I suggest a green or white LC pad, speed 5-6 with the PC, work it for a while, till the polish turns into a oily substance, then do 2-4 more passes.

Just hit it again with 106, or use FP/II. Then rewax, I would not waste my time removing the old wax, the polish it will remove it with out a problem.

 

I also agree with the above posts, could be that you didn't break down the SIP enough or with the final polish you didn't wipe it all off or let it dry long enough and thus leaving behind a residue that needs to be removed.

Try rewashing the car first with soap, if that doesn't work then go for the IPA wipe down, if both of those don't remove the haze then I would bet you didn't work in the polish long enough. What machine where you using?

Josh

 

its not a haze in the paint.. it seems to be a haze of left over product.. rubbing my finger over the haze area seems to remove it... maybe its just extra oils left over from wiping it down.. I did not wash it after using the polish.. i polished with a porter cable dual action orbital with foam pads orange then white pad... then just waxed it.. the wipe down of water alcohol mix dull out the paint? should the car have been washed after the polishing before it was waxed?

 

Do you have a detail spray? Try using it on a couple of panels to see if it removes the "haze". This sounds more like you didn't wipe off all the wax. The W/A wipe down will not dull it, but will remove the wax. Don't wipe to hard, you don't want to wipe mar the paint. You can also spray the MF towel & wipe that way.

When I remove wax from my car, I use 2-3 MF towels, they load up & start to smear & push the wax instead to removing it.

 

Sounds like the products didn't fully dry or get wiped off and you're left with the residue. That typically happens if too much product is applied or it's not worked in long enough

Rewash it to remove the residue. This time dry it off and use a QD product afterwards.

Josh

 

I always wash the car with P21S autowash after I am done polishing a clients car to get rid of any excess oils and residues so I have a clean "canvas" to apply a cleansing lotion then a carnuaba wax. Just my $.02. This method hasn't failed me once yet!!!! Give it a try, it won't hurt.

 

Yep, P21S TAW is great for post polishing.

 

+1..great idea. It seems our original poster simply had a little left over oil from the polishes. Even a simple wash with a soap will remedy the haze and get rid of any left over dust from the polishes. Then go straight into waxing if using a synthetic wax like Glanz or polishing by hand if using a natural carnauba and then wax.

 

Talk to Moe, and he'll line you up with some Zymol HD Clense, the stuff works great. It's a necessity before waxing.


John