Is a scuderia a good 3 - 6 year "investment"?
Is a scuderia a good 3 - 6 year "investment"?
My local dealer offered me a Red on black Scuderia with a few options, thinking to sell my '05 f430 6 speed with 9k on the odo and pick this car up for another 80k(CAD) on top.
I noticed back when the Challenge Stradale came out it has held its value much better than the nicer 360's of that day. Can I expect the same out of the Scuderia?
Also having second thoughts of even considering another car with my local Ferrari dealership. They annoy me sometimes I think its almost time to go back to the beloved p cars maybe with a gt3 rs which might suit my needs a bit better.
I noticed back when the Challenge Stradale came out it has held its value much better than the nicer 360's of that day. Can I expect the same out of the Scuderia?
Also having second thoughts of even considering another car with my local Ferrari dealership. They annoy me sometimes I think its almost time to go back to the beloved p cars maybe with a gt3 rs which might suit my needs a bit better.
Hello:
If you research the $$ on Stradales which is the closet comparison to the Scuderia in the F-car world, you will find that they have been $200K +/- cars since new (These days real $$ is less than $200K).
The Stradale and Scuderia are variations of the production models (360 and 430) unlike the F40, F50, Enzo.
When you use the term "investment," and expect returns/appreciation like the "Super" Ferrari(s) I think in 6 years you will not be pleased.
Like you, I've been offered an incoming Scuderia (I assume the person who ordered it will not be following through) with a mark-up. I haven't committed at this time because IMHO the Scuderia will decrease in $$ around MSRP in the coming years (The first "used" Scuderia went for $500K +/- and there is a used one with less than 200 miles available for $399K).
If you research the $$ on Stradales which is the closet comparison to the Scuderia in the F-car world, you will find that they have been $200K +/- cars since new (These days real $$ is less than $200K).
The Stradale and Scuderia are variations of the production models (360 and 430) unlike the F40, F50, Enzo.
When you use the term "investment," and expect returns/appreciation like the "Super" Ferrari(s) I think in 6 years you will not be pleased.
Like you, I've been offered an incoming Scuderia (I assume the person who ordered it will not be following through) with a mark-up. I haven't committed at this time because IMHO the Scuderia will decrease in $$ around MSRP in the coming years (The first "used" Scuderia went for $500K +/- and there is a used one with less than 200 miles available for $399K).
Jotti, is this for you or your father? 
For the price they are offering it you, I'd say it's a good deal. Will it appreciate? No. Will it depreciate less than your current F-car? Yes.

For the price they are offering it you, I'd say it's a good deal. Will it appreciate? No. Will it depreciate less than your current F-car? Yes.
Last edited by WyattH; Sep 18, 2008 at 01:23 AM.
My local dealer offered me a Red on black Scuderia with a few options, thinking to sell my '05 f430 6 speed with 9k on the odo and pick this car up for another 80k(CAD) on top.
I noticed back when the Challenge Stradale came out it has held its value much better than the nicer 360's of that day. Can I expect the same out of the Scuderia?
Also having second thoughts of even considering another car with my local Ferrari dealership. They annoy me sometimes I think its almost time to go back to the beloved p cars maybe with a gt3 rs which might suit my needs a bit better.
I noticed back when the Challenge Stradale came out it has held its value much better than the nicer 360's of that day. Can I expect the same out of the Scuderia?
Also having second thoughts of even considering another car with my local Ferrari dealership. They annoy me sometimes I think its almost time to go back to the beloved p cars maybe with a gt3 rs which might suit my needs a bit better.
But, I highly doubt this is the case...
An 05 F430 is worth ~$200K in Canada (less to a Ferrari dealer, obviously)... the means you'll be into the Scud for ~$280.
Considering the Scud has a list price in Canada of ~$350,000... something seems fishy here.
If you are being offered to trade your 2005 F430 and only pay an additional $80k... TAKE THE DEAL AND DON'T LOOK BACK!
But, I highly doubt this is the case...
An 05 F430 is worth ~$200K in Canada (less to a Ferrari dealer, obviously)... the means you'll be into the Scud for ~$280.
Considering the Scud has a list price in Canada of ~$350,000... something seems fishy here.
But, I highly doubt this is the case...
An 05 F430 is worth ~$200K in Canada (less to a Ferrari dealer, obviously)... the means you'll be into the Scud for ~$280.
Considering the Scud has a list price in Canada of ~$350,000... something seems fishy here.
Same thing I was wondering......if this deal is for real take it!
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Like others have said...at the prices your stating...do it!
will it depreciate slower than a standard F430...i think so.
Will it appreciate in value...absolutely not. 99% of cars are not "financial investments", to me they are investments for your soul...and thats worth a lot more than the depreciation to me.
something to note...you currently drive a 6-speed or manual, i would assume that the Scud will be F1 or Egear...how do you feel about the switch?
will it depreciate slower than a standard F430...i think so.
Will it appreciate in value...absolutely not. 99% of cars are not "financial investments", to me they are investments for your soul...and thats worth a lot more than the depreciation to me.
something to note...you currently drive a 6-speed or manual, i would assume that the Scud will be F1 or Egear...how do you feel about the switch?
me&you: your sentiments are right, the trade in is not offered by the dealer but I have an interested party and a flip through to minimize tax expenditure is always viable. May be looking at 100k, 80k is slightly optimistic
agreed. Scuds will only drop (albeit very slowly) until many years from now when they become collectible.
You have a (private) buyer for your F430?
And FMoV will facilitate that sale so you can use the F430 as a trade-credit to reduce the taxable amount?
And after having your F430 "flow through" FMoV, they will sell you a Scuderia for an additional $80-100k?
Sorry, but I still think you are being optimistic, either on what you are going to get for your car, or what FMoV will let the Scuderia go for.
Scud list at $350,000 - retail value of the 05 F430 at (an optimistic) $210,000 still = $140,000 + gst/pst...
Can you clarify?
(However, if you are being offered this deal for anywhere near your anticipated difference, DO IT!)
FofV has a high KM F430 for under $200,000(CDN) and Mr. Openroads white 07' F430 with 2300 km's is going for $249,000(CDN) so I assume the OP's F430 will get around $200,000 as me&you suggested.




