To PCCB or not!?
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I've heard the total replacement for PCCB pads and rotors is around $40,000. 
Maybe an exaggeration - but I'd check it out. If you're not running a dedicated track car - and even if you are and have a limited budget, I'd stick with the stock brakes, and upgrade the fluid.
Maybe an exaggeration - but I'd check it out. If you're not running a dedicated track car - and even if you are and have a limited budget, I'd stick with the stock brakes, and upgrade the fluid.
Are PCCB brakes incompatible with regular (steel) rotors and pads? What would be the cost to "down-grade" to Porsche stock brakes if you can't afford replacing PCCB rotors and pads?
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Yes - change the rotors and pads (keep the hats) and you can use yellow calipers with steel. People do it all the time. Prices range from $2500 to $5k depending on brake company (Coleman, Brembo, etc.)
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You're all nuts 
I have had PCCB's on GT3s and 997 Turbos, and they have nowhere near the stopping power of actual Brembo or AP racing steel brakes that are used in almost all racing series (except Formula One). Nobody that is seriously tracking their car is using these brakes, the replacement costs are too high.
The margin that Porsche makes on these brakes, and on replacements is over 90%. To say that if you have to worry about the $40K replacement costs on a set of these brakes if you are a Porsche owner doesn't make sense- that's about a third of the cost of the entire car. That is just a poor economic decision. But, if you use it like a 'garage queen', and sell or trade it after a few thousand miles, like many Porsche owners, then do it.
I have had PCCB's on GT3s and 997 Turbos, and they have nowhere near the stopping power of actual Brembo or AP racing steel brakes that are used in almost all racing series (except Formula One). Nobody that is seriously tracking their car is using these brakes, the replacement costs are too high.
The margin that Porsche makes on these brakes, and on replacements is over 90%. To say that if you have to worry about the $40K replacement costs on a set of these brakes if you are a Porsche owner doesn't make sense- that's about a third of the cost of the entire car. That is just a poor economic decision. But, if you use it like a 'garage queen', and sell or trade it after a few thousand miles, like many Porsche owners, then do it.
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I agree, although they do have various pad compounds available which can change the results, I have the 'porsche motorsport' pads fitted and ive found that my PCCBs arent nearly up the challenge on the track. And replacing just one disk is the same price of a brand new set of 4 GT3 cup car calipers and disks front and rear. Not worth it IMO.
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You're all nuts
I have had PCCB's on GT3s and 997 Turbos, and they have nowhere near the stopping power of actual Brembo or AP racing steel brakes that are used in almost all racing series (except Formula One). Nobody that is seriously tracking their car is using these brakes, the replacement costs are too high.
The margin that Porsche makes on these brakes, and on replacements is over 90%. To say that if you have to worry about the $40K replacement costs on a set of these brakes if you are a Porsche owner doesn't make sense- that's about a third of the cost of the entire car. That is just a poor economic decision. But, if you use it like a 'garage queen', and sell or trade it after a few thousand miles, like many Porsche owners, then do it.
I have had PCCB's on GT3s and 997 Turbos, and they have nowhere near the stopping power of actual Brembo or AP racing steel brakes that are used in almost all racing series (except Formula One). Nobody that is seriously tracking their car is using these brakes, the replacement costs are too high.
The margin that Porsche makes on these brakes, and on replacements is over 90%. To say that if you have to worry about the $40K replacement costs on a set of these brakes if you are a Porsche owner doesn't make sense- that's about a third of the cost of the entire car. That is just a poor economic decision. But, if you use it like a 'garage queen', and sell or trade it after a few thousand miles, like many Porsche owners, then do it.
I totally agree with you.
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When you order them as a factory option, do you also receive the steels no. So the there's an offset. Just because a factory option is say $9k, that doesn't mean you can pay $9k afterwards and get the same package. Converting over to PCCB is almost twice as expensive as the factory option.
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According to Suncoast, f&r PCCB rotor+pad set is around $16,881 parts only.
http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me...ode=997GT3PCCB
http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me...ode=997GT3PCCB
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$40k isn't correct.
When you order them as a factory option, do you also receive the steels no. So the there's an offset. Just because a factory option is say $9k, that doesn't mean you can pay $9k afterwards and get the same package. Converting over to PCCB is almost twice as expensive as the factory option.
When you order them as a factory option, do you also receive the steels no. So the there's an offset. Just because a factory option is say $9k, that doesn't mean you can pay $9k afterwards and get the same package. Converting over to PCCB is almost twice as expensive as the factory option.
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A set (being defined as all those needed to complete the car) takes 4 rotors. And costs about $15k. If you want to define a set as the pair for the front, or the pair for the back, you're still at $7-8k
Let's see this magical place that sells sets of rotors for $5,500. I'll be first in line.
Let's see this magical place that sells sets of rotors for $5,500. I'll be first in line.
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A set (being defined as all those needed to complete the car) takes 4 rotors. And costs about $15k. If you want to define a set as the pair for the front, or the pair for the back, you're still at $7-8k
Let's see this magical place that sells sets of rotors for $5,500. I'll be first in line.
Let's see this magical place that sells sets of rotors for $5,500. I'll be first in line.
It was very late at night
I have PCCBs in my 997 turbo, I hope they will get cheaper by the time I will have to change them.
There is an alternative: bolt on steel rotors for about 5-6,000$ I think, I think they would work better even the original steel because the front diameter is bigger compared to the stock
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