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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Thinking of Getting a Track Car

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Im thinking picking up a high mileage GT3 or maybe Carrera S to track. I have a RS something doesn't sit right with me trashing my Garage Queen. Ive never tracked before but really would like to start.

Likely I would leave the car stock at first, maybe buy some track wheels and tires and slowly mod it.

Anyone here have a track only GT3 or Carrera S?
 
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Are you going to do just DE events or are you planning on racing it?
 
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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Forget the Carrera S, get a 996 GT3 and strip It down. You will learn a lot driving one.
 
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Get a BASE (NO Options) Cayman S...09 or newer... Then mod it as you go, eventually turning it into a Cayman Interseries car....Theyre great fun to drive, quite forgiving, and plenty fast around a track for someone who has never tracked a car to be kept happy for a long time!!
 
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this time of year there are quite a few GT3 cup cars for sale, there are even a few on ebay. Maxwell racing has a porsche 997 Grand Am series race car for sale listed on their site for $55K
link: http://www.maxwellpaperracing.com/contact.html
 
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this time of year there are quite a few GT3 cup cars for sale, there are even a few on ebay. Maxwell racing has a porsche 997 Grand Am series race car for sale listed on their site for $55K
link: http://www.maxwellpaperracing.com/contact.html
That is a C2 stripper, not a GT3 Cup car.
 
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^^^^^Really????

Are you seriously suggesting that a person with NO track experience buy a cup car? or even a (in this case, worn out beat up) GS car????

I see it WAYYYY TOO OFTEN, especially in PCA, that people buy cars that are WAY faster than they have any business being behind the wheel of, and end up as ****ty drivers as a result!!

The other thing I see way too often is someone buys a slower car (good thing), but has little or no experience, and doesn't go as fast as others, so instead of spending the time and money to become a better DRIVER, they spend money, and make their cars faster, or buy faster cars, and still suck as drivers....

Buy a slower class car, its cheaper to maintain, and spend time and money on coaching, data acquisition, and the knowledge to use it, and become a better driver. its a lot more fulfilling to chase down a ****** in a cup car, in your stock class cayman (believe me, I know), than it is to be mid pack in a bunch of ******* in their cup cars!!
 
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Originally Posted by PBR ME
^^^^^Really????

Are you seriously suggesting that a person with NO track experience buy a cup car? or even a (in this case, worn out beat up) GS car????

I see it WAYYYY TOO OFTEN, especially in PCA, that people buy cars that are WAY faster than they have any business being behind the wheel of, and end up as ****ty drivers as a result!!

The other thing I see way too often is someone buys a slower car (good thing), but has little or no experience, and doesn't go as fast as others, so instead of spending the time and money to become a better DRIVER, they spend money, and make their cars faster, or buy faster cars, and still suck as drivers....

Buy a slower class car, its cheaper to maintain, and spend time and money on coaching, data acquisition, and the knowledge to use it, and become a better driver. its a lot more fulfilling to chase down a ****** in a cup car, in your stock class cayman (believe me, I know), than it is to be mid pack in a bunch of ******* in their cup cars!!
I agree with this post. I'd even go as far as saying don't even look at Porsche's as your first track car. Get something like an older BMW 328i or 330i (not even an M) for $5K or $6K or perhaps even an older Suburu WRX for just a few grand and focus first on learning how to drive. Once you master driving THEN you can begin getting a car that is faster. MUCH less expensive this way and probably MUCH more rewarding as it won't take quite as long to learn how to out-drive the limits of the car - but even that'll likely take more time than you think - even with an older, much slower car...
 
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What they said Miata with SC/Turbo, E36M3, Subie if you want AWD, Honda for FWD. Learn to carry speed through the turns with a momentum car before you start shortening the straights with HP. There is a lot to be said for Cheap Disposable Track Cars. "CDTC" If you want to go the Porsche route then by all means have at it. Older Boxster$$, 993$$$, or 964$$ add some camber and sticky street tires and have at it. Save the mods for later. IMHO of course, YMMV. I will now climb off my soap box and admit I did it all wrong and probably wouldn't have listened to the advice I just gave.

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The great thing about a stock low option Cayman (09 and up), is that its low cost to run, still a VERY cool car, a lot less than a GT3, and can be slowly modded into a real and very fast race car!!!

I think for the OP and what he was considering, this is the best option....

E36 M3 is a great car too, but older and much more susceptible to breaking etc...Its what I started in (as far as race cars go!).
 
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An old 944 makes for a great track car too - very popular...
 
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996 GT3 answers your question. Best track car for money.
I'm just a meager ole ****** to the pro above.
 
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oh come on now cole.... was that your first ever track toy??? if so, i bet you'd be faster than you are, or at the least sooner than you were had you started with something a little more forgiving!!

However with comments like that, you may just prove yourself a ******!!!
 
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LOL. I just had to repeat the comment. Sounded too good. No, it's not my first track toy, but I had about 10 GT3's, so a Spec Boxster wasn't in line with my experience. I danced with the one that brung me. So sayeth the ******.
 
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Spec miata to learn momentum, ive been looking for a dedicated track car myself and I've found a lot of nice miatas for under 20k. 996 stripper would be awesome, but if you put it in a wall it is still going to cost a boat load of mula.
 


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