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That black gallardo is the nastiest street car I've ever seen. Definitely in a league of its own. Whats that thing run on, mystical unicorn tears 
Divexxtreme good luck on your journey to beat that beast, I think your gonna need it.
Divexxtreme good luck on your journey to beat that beast, I think your gonna need it.
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Divexxtreme good luck on your journey to beat that beast, I think your gonna need it.
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Good luck with trying to catch up to the TTG's, if there's any car that can do it the GTR would be one of the few that I can think of due to the trans + AWD.
If you ever come close I'm sure Kevin would turn up the boost once again, I remember reading somewhere that he was hooking the 1900+whp gallardo's on concrete.....
If you ever come close I'm sure Kevin would turn up the boost once again, I remember reading somewhere that he was hooking the 1900+whp gallardo's on concrete.....
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I guess that I am unsure of is the power potential of the VR38 , if it were a stroked RB26 it would certainly be capable of very close to the power potential of the Gallardo. Even though it would certainly require a lot of boost and also a much worse powerband with much worse boost response. I know the VR38 is capable of 4 digit hp but I believe it will need 1400 plus awhp to run with the 1550 awhp Gallardo's.
Also, I don't believe 1400 whp will be required. I say this for two reasons:
1. The differences in how the two cars are dyno'd (UGR dynos in RWD on a Dynojet, while Switzer dynos in AWD on a Mustang)
2. Looking at available acceleration data:
-The black car went 60-150 in 5.5 seconds.
-The green car went 10.2 @ 157 at the dragstrip in TX
-An AMS GT-R (the top dog GT-R right now) at 1069 awhp went 60-150 in the same 5.5 seconds (although it spun on the dyno and 'may' have had more power than 1069)
-The same AMS GT-R went 9.10 @ 159 on the same dragstrip, the same day, at a raceweight of probably 3650-3700 lbs.
So, the GT-Rs are doing quite well with siginificantly less HP.
Here's some more info for you:
'Standard' R1K dyno: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...p-960awtq.html
Ride impressions of a R1K by OhioGT2 (who has driven and/or ridden in all of the cars in the above video and who's also building a UGR TTG SL as we speak): https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
R1K test drive video on the stock runflats: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
Maybe I am wrong I am sure as your build nears completion you will be able to shed some light on the subject.
The plan is for me to run 1, 2 or possibly 3 1500+ TTGs as soon as my car is complete. So we'll see how it goes. Either way, I have huge respect for UGR and their cars. They're currently the top dogs and most deservedly so.
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Good luck with trying to catch up to the TTG's, if there's any car that can do it the GTR would be one of the few that I can think of due to the trans + AWD.
If you ever come close I'm sure Kevin would turn up the boost once again, I remember reading somewhere that he was hooking the 1900+whp gallardo's on concrete.....
If you ever come close I'm sure Kevin would turn up the boost once again, I remember reading somewhere that he was hooking the 1900+whp gallardo's on concrete.....
Oh well. There's always something faster out there.
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I can hook that same power on the street as John Reed can verify as that idiot actually has the ***** to ride shot gun with me as we test our Gallardo's. Actually we have put down more power on a concrete highway than what the Nera makes. On that 3.0 130-180 pull we were at 1500 WHP in 3rd gear and 1650 or so in 4th gear. Those same settings on concrete, we dead hooked on the street from 70 mph.
Before mile testing after the new found power in another car at 1950 WHP, we were able to put that down on the street as well in 4th gear. Don't ever underestimate something you have no experience with especially when its an Underground Racing TT Gallardo with AWD. That is something WE will probably never try again, with just after a few pulls at that level we started to develop a little tunnel vision.
Before mile testing after the new found power in another car at 1950 WHP, we were able to put that down on the street as well in 4th gear. Don't ever underestimate something you have no experience with especially when its an Underground Racing TT Gallardo with AWD. That is something WE will probably never try again, with just after a few pulls at that level we started to develop a little tunnel vision.
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I think this is one of the biggest factors when comparing the two cars. Can someone shed some light as to why the TT gallardo's are dyno'd RWD rather than AWD? Have any of the high hp TT gallardo's been put on a AWD dyno yet? Curious to see what the numbers would be in AWD format.
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Agreed.
You might be very surprised to see the powerband of Switzer's stock displacement R1K cars. Very usable power.
Also, I don't believe 1400 whp will be required. I say this for two reasons:
1. The differences in how the two cars are dyno'd (UGR dynos in RWD on a Dynojet, while Switzer dynos in AWD on a Mustang)
2. Looking at available acceleration data:
-The black car went 60-150 in 5.5 seconds.
-The green car went 10.2 @ 157 at the dragstrip in TX
-An AMS GT-R (the top dog GT-R right now) at 1069 awhp went 60-150 in the same 5.5 seconds (although it spun on the dyno and 'may' have had more power than 1069)
-The same AMS GT-R went 9.10 @ 159 on the same dragstrip, the same day, at a raceweight of probably 3650-3700 lbs.
So, the GT-Rs are doing quite well with siginificantly less HP.
Here's some more info for you:
'Standard' R1K dyno: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...p-960awtq.html
Ride impressions of a R1K by OhioGT2 (who has driven and/or ridden in all of the cars in the above video and who's also building a UGR TTG SL as we speak): https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
R1K test drive video on the stock runflats: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
Heck, you may just be right. All I have are numbers at this point. And while we know how much power we'd like to make, my car isn't even done yet. Until the cars line up head to head, I have no way of knowing who will actually be faster.
The plan is for me to run 1, 2 or possibly 3 1500+ TTGs as soon as my car is complete. So we'll see how it goes. Either way, I have huge respect for UGR and their cars. They're currently the top dogs and most deservedly so.
You might be very surprised to see the powerband of Switzer's stock displacement R1K cars. Very usable power.
Also, I don't believe 1400 whp will be required. I say this for two reasons:
1. The differences in how the two cars are dyno'd (UGR dynos in RWD on a Dynojet, while Switzer dynos in AWD on a Mustang)
2. Looking at available acceleration data:
-The black car went 60-150 in 5.5 seconds.
-The green car went 10.2 @ 157 at the dragstrip in TX
-An AMS GT-R (the top dog GT-R right now) at 1069 awhp went 60-150 in the same 5.5 seconds (although it spun on the dyno and 'may' have had more power than 1069)
-The same AMS GT-R went 9.10 @ 159 on the same dragstrip, the same day, at a raceweight of probably 3650-3700 lbs.
So, the GT-Rs are doing quite well with siginificantly less HP.
Here's some more info for you:
'Standard' R1K dyno: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...p-960awtq.html
Ride impressions of a R1K by OhioGT2 (who has driven and/or ridden in all of the cars in the above video and who's also building a UGR TTG SL as we speak): https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
R1K test drive video on the stock runflats: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...est-drive.html
Heck, you may just be right. All I have are numbers at this point. And while we know how much power we'd like to make, my car isn't even done yet. Until the cars line up head to head, I have no way of knowing who will actually be faster.
The plan is for me to run 1, 2 or possibly 3 1500+ TTGs as soon as my car is complete. So we'll see how it goes. Either way, I have huge respect for UGR and their cars. They're currently the top dogs and most deservedly so.
I did not know that UGR's dyno numbers were in RWD on a dynojet vs AWD on a Mustang dyno. So that erases I would imagine around 150-200 whp advantage. The other thing I don't know is what a Gallardo weighs with all the turbo hardware, I would imagine a SL with 1550 whp to be even nastier due to its weight savings.
I love these kind of discussions as long as they stay civil, a lot to think about and a lot of data. One thing to keep in mind although the Gallardo and GTR due to there AWD may be some of the fastest useable street cars they are certainly not the fastest. There are 6 second and 7 second street legal cars out there.
The problem is its rare that someone sets up a car like that to have enough hook to run on the street even though they are out there.
That is flat out insane, its going to take a really well figured out RWD car to hang with a Gallardo TT or R1k from a roll.
I think this is one of the biggest factors when comparing the two cars. Can someone shed some light as to why the TT gallardo's are dyno'd RWD rather than AWD? Have any of the high hp TT gallardo's been put on a AWD dyno yet? Curious to see what the numbers would be in AWD format.
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I love watching this stuff, and I got to see all of those cars in person. Perks of living in Houston!
When I entered the car scene, 600rwhp was insane and could handle just about anything around here. That is a joke compared to the cars running around today. It's crazy to see the progression in such a short time.
When I entered the car scene, 600rwhp was insane and could handle just about anything around here. That is a joke compared to the cars running around today. It's crazy to see the progression in such a short time.
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I've heard conflicting info on this one. I was told in TX that the Nera was making more than 1500 at the time of that run. Oh well....