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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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I would take the Lambo for sure. This is a true supercar to me
 
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You guys about the engine are Hilarious......The motor is 5.4 cubes like the lightning yes. So Ford used the cubic inch and that is it. The block completely different, different cooling, oil squirter for pistons, 4 bolt mains and cross bolts, dry sump and oil from heads goes down ports on outside of block versus draining inside. Crank is same stroke but is not a lightning/navi piece either, came with Manley rods that are good to 1400+hp. NO one has ever broken one...They use the same timing chains as the lincoln navigator and the timing gears. The heads were derrived from the 2000 cobra r mustang but still changed. There is not a single hard part from the GT Engine that will innerchange with any other Ford 5.4 with out modification (except the timing chains,gears,cams,lifters with GT500 which came later and rocker arms) The rest is GT Specific. Now the test motors were ran for 300hours on Roushes dyno's at WOT (600hp) That would be about 60000miles of WOT and 18000 gallons of fuel todo that. A ford GT will burn threw 15 gallons of fuel @ 200mph in 50 miles of WOT. These things were built for absolute abuse....

Yes the new GT500 makes more power than the 6 year old GT now, the GT could of made 650hp. Just another 1000 of them woulda been crashed.

A lambo would be bad *** as they are very defined, but it will always be a lambo, it will depreciate in cost. The Ford GT is the last Iconic supercar of this time. Affordable, great styling, No Cruise, No traction control (unforunate for those who crash because of it. Raw hp, can make 1000-1200rwhp with STOCK MOTOR and go 226 in the mile all day long with 1000rwhp, Fuel system can support 1000rwhp also. What car out there can you bolt on a turbo kit with out fuel system mods,aftermarket pcm and rebuilding engine and make that kind of power and go that fast?
 
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Mine did 630 on the dyno with a pulley and tune.
 
Old Dec 26, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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depends what you are looking for.... the new lambo is nice, but in a few years itll be just another lambo, especially when the updated version comes out ala the lp640... and when you lose 200k in the cost of the car..... Also theres a few things i really dont like about the car.... starting with the electronic dash and all the gizmos.... If I were to buy a Aventador id need atleast one other raw machine in the stable for when you want to rekindle your love with a real sports car, one that you actually have to be alert whern driving instead of these new supercars that a toddler can drive in auto mode!

Also Id def go with a CGT over any other car... with a change up of tires to the new pilot sports, the car would react to the road much different.... and there was a suspension setting that most of the owners did to keep the rear more planted...

The CGT and FGt are true drivers cars!
 
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OK, I have never been the biggest supporter of either car, but one thing needs to be cleared up... One thing here that has been said, and is irritating, is "mass produced Lambo."

Since my crystal ball is busy working with stock predictions to keep me living a very comfortable lifestyle, I will have to substitute the numbers for a Murciélago in place of the Aventador... Lamborghini has stated that they will be limiting production to 4000 units, so I genuinely believe that it's a fair comparison.

The Lamborghini Murciélago was in production for NINE YEARS ('01-'10) and they made 4099 of them. A generous estimate would put three thousand of them in the US, but I would peg that number a lot closer to 2500 on the high side. (Have ya been to the middle east? Tripping over Murci's...) That number is also total production run counting five variants of the car.

The Ford GT was produced for TWO YEARS (MY'05-'06) and they made 4038 of them. I will concede that significantly fewer than 3000 of these remain in the US. Again, just in case you're a quick reader that missed either of those numbers, thats four thousand and thirty eight examples of the car produced over two model years.

That means that Lamborghini was making one Murciélago a day (give or take four hours).
At the same time Ford was turning out one GT every four hours and twenty minutes...


We all may be and know enough fortunate people that cars like the Ford GT or the Murciélago can seem common, but make no bones about it, they are both significantly rare cars, and in annual production the Murci was produced in significantly lower numbers. There will always be something new, and that will always lead to the value of the something that it replaced being lower. Ford will make another super car eventually, and Lambo will replace the Aventador at some point to.

Performance wise, the Aventador, is one of the fastest things out there right now. It handles amazingly well, and in the hands of a capable driver it has been shown to be quicker around a track than even the Veyron SS. Sometimes the refinement can be a bad thing though. I know someone who stated that he will not be buying one because it, "no longer feels dangerous, which means it no longer has a Lamborghini soul." Given the fact that he has owned numerous recent Lambo's I'm going to have to take his word for that one.

The Ford GT is a gorgeous car, supremely capable, and there is very little that I have ever been critical about when it comes to the car.

If I had to pick, and the three hundred thousand dollar jump in price didn't concern me, I'm picking the Lamborghini... Just on the looks.
 
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Ford will make another super car eventually,

There is no way to be 100% sure of this. There is no car in the pipeline right now which means at least 3 years until it "would" come out. There is no guarantee a successor will EVER be made (I hope they do as I am sure I'd buy one).
 
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I can tell you with absolute certainty that Ford will make another super car, barring them closing their doors.

I can't tell you when.
 
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I went looking for info and found these of value so far, also the man in charge said it was 1 year from start to finish and Clarkson who owned 1 even had the lightning parked next to it.

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aventador syling doesn't do anything for me. it's a step back from the murcialego and diablo, and no real manual really ruins the driving fun off the racetrack (where the car will spend 99% of its life).

Ford GT has already depreciated as far as it's gonna go.

If I was gonna spend 150k though i'd get a lp640 murcielago personally.
 
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Where the heck have you found a Murci LP640 for $150K?
 
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Where the heck have you found a Murci LP640 for $150K?
you might have to bump the price up to 175, but there are definitely some deals out there.
 


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