Whats wrong with Lamborghini?
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Inmo, The 430 is a fantastic driving automobile. where it fails for me is visually, and I hate most ferrari owners.
Anyway yes the G as something more special...uniqueness!!
Nothing to say about F430 skills, which is still quite a perfection...
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Originally Posted by pilone
Anyway yes the G as something more special...uniqueness!!
Nothing to say about F430 skills, which is still quite a perfection...
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Yeah it is...it's not the fact Ferraris are less beautiful than Lambos...the problem is that every Lambo model is different from the others. 
You know F430 has quite the same rear lights as the Enzo...etc.
You know F430 has quite the same rear lights as the Enzo...etc.
Originally Posted by allanlambo
Inmo, The 430 is a fantastic driving automobile. where it fails for me is visually, and I hate most ferrari owners.
I think the problem with a majority of them can be illustrated by this little anecdote:
I was at an outdoor auto show thing (for charity?) a year ago or so. I went up to a Ferrari CS... checked it out. The owner was standing next to it talking to the guy with the enzo how he got a nice leather enclosure for the fire extinguisher. I asked him if he ever pushed the car and he look at me with horror and asked " why in the world would I drive my 360 hard? (or something to that tune)"
.... I rolled my eyes and left.
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Originally Posted by Sheynk
I think the problem with a majority of them can be illustrated by this little anecdote:
I was at an outdoor auto show thing (for charity?) a year ago or so. I went up to a Ferrari CS... checked it out. The owner was standing next to it talking to the guy with the enzo how he got a nice leather enclosure for the fire extinguisher. I asked him if he ever pushed the car and he look at me with horror and asked " why in the world would I drive my 360 hard? (or something to that tune)"
.... I rolled my eyes and left.
I was at an outdoor auto show thing (for charity?) a year ago or so. I went up to a Ferrari CS... checked it out. The owner was standing next to it talking to the guy with the enzo how he got a nice leather enclosure for the fire extinguisher. I asked him if he ever pushed the car and he look at me with horror and asked " why in the world would I drive my 360 hard? (or something to that tune)"
.... I rolled my eyes and left.
he didnt buy his ferrari for the driving pleasure, he bought it for the attention...sad..
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Originally Posted by Sheynk
I think the problem with a majority of them can be illustrated by this little anecdote:
I was at an outdoor auto show thing (for charity?) a year ago or so. I went up to a Ferrari CS... checked it out. The owner was standing next to it talking to the guy with the enzo how he got a nice leather enclosure for the fire extinguisher. I asked him if he ever pushed the car and he look at me with horror and asked " why in the world would I drive my 360 hard? (or something to that tune)"
.... I rolled my eyes and left.
I was at an outdoor auto show thing (for charity?) a year ago or so. I went up to a Ferrari CS... checked it out. The owner was standing next to it talking to the guy with the enzo how he got a nice leather enclosure for the fire extinguisher. I asked him if he ever pushed the car and he look at me with horror and asked " why in the world would I drive my 360 hard? (or something to that tune)"
.... I rolled my eyes and left.
Simple...because it's a Ferrari...if you wanted to go slow than you would have bought a CUORE...
The 360 was created to enjoy its driving abilities and not to show others you are rich!
Please help that guy...
P.S. Sorry but I had to say that
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Originally Posted by ExtinctM3
http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp they dont have the 430 but it has Gallardo.
hope they will post the test for the 430 soon^^
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Originally Posted by Sniper112
nice post!
hope they will post the test for the 430 soon^^
hope they will post the test for the 430 soon^^
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Conclusion : the F430 was definitely the car to be in if you wanted the ultimate wild ride sensation, but it was too flawed in too many areas to live with the others overall - both of which felt more sorted and were plain faster across the ground. Final answer regarding the F430 in this context reads as follows: Great car, great cabin, but the game has moved on since this car rewrote the rulebook just two years ago.
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also the surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs Italy - for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It's not unchecked movement; in fact, it's always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under the brakes and out of the corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yard out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But besides the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanour. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and amazingly much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced not as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here's the real killer,. When a littler later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty carriageway up to a speed we won't be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911 scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they're all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back down the M4 at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tyre roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilised over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it's the best of it''s kind so far by the margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it's almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
Steve Sutcliffe
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Quote last section :
Conclusion : the F430 was definitely the car to be in if you wanted the ultimate wild ride sensation, but it was too flawed in too many areas to live with the others overall - both of which felt more sorted and were plain faster across the ground. Final answer regarding the F430 in this context reads as follows: Great car, great cabin, but the game has moved on since this car rewrote the rulebook just two years ago.
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also the surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs Italy - for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It's not unchecked movement; in fact, it's always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under the brakes and out of the corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yard out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But besides the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanour. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and amazingly much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced not as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here's the real killer,. When a littler later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty carriageway up to a speed we won't be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911 scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they're all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back down the M4 at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tyre roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilised over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it's the best of it''s kind so far by the margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it's almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
Steve Sutcliffe
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Conclusion : the F430 was definitely the car to be in if you wanted the ultimate wild ride sensation, but it was too flawed in too many areas to live with the others overall - both of which felt more sorted and were plain faster across the ground. Final answer regarding the F430 in this context reads as follows: Great car, great cabin, but the game has moved on since this car rewrote the rulebook just two years ago.
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also the surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs Italy - for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It's not unchecked movement; in fact, it's always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under the brakes and out of the corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yard out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But besides the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanour. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and amazingly much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced not as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here's the real killer,. When a littler later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty carriageway up to a speed we won't be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911 scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they're all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back down the M4 at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tyre roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilised over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it's the best of it''s kind so far by the margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it's almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
Steve Sutcliffe
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Quote last section :
Conclusion : the F430 was definitely the car to be in if you wanted the ultimate wild ride sensation, but it was too flawed in too many areas to live with the others overall - both of which felt more sorted and were plain faster across the ground. Final answer regarding the F430 in this context reads as follows: Great car, great cabin, but the game has moved on since this car rewrote the rulebook just two years ago.
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also the surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs Italy - for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It's not unchecked movement; in fact, it's always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under the brakes and out of the corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yard out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But besides the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanour. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and amazingly much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced not as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here's the real killer,. When a littler later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty carriageway up to a speed we won't be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911 scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they're all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back down the M4 at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tyre roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilised over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it's the best of it''s kind so far by the margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it's almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
Steve Sutcliffe
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anyhow, the information provided simply describes the feeling of one person who drove the cars.. it doesnt represent everybody's opinion...
im not putting the lambo down in any way, im just saying that "gallardo is the best supercar aside from the Bugatti Veryon" is a big claim..
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Originally Posted by Sniper112
i have read this info on the 997 section posted by Allan~
anyhow, the information provided simply describes the feeling of one person who drove the cars.. it doesnt represent everybody's opinion...
im not putting the lambo down in any way, im just saying that "gallardo is the best supercar aside from the Bugatti Veryon" is a big claim..
anyhow, the information provided simply describes the feeling of one person who drove the cars.. it doesnt represent everybody's opinion...
im not putting the lambo down in any way, im just saying that "gallardo is the best supercar aside from the Bugatti Veryon" is a big claim..
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Originally Posted by Sniper112
i have read this info on the 997 section posted by Allan~
anyhow, the information provided simply describes the feeling of one person who drove the cars.. it doesnt represent everybody's opinion...
im not putting the lambo down in any way, im just saying that "gallardo is the best supercar aside from the Bugatti Veryon" is a big claim..
anyhow, the information provided simply describes the feeling of one person who drove the cars.. it doesnt represent everybody's opinion...
im not putting the lambo down in any way, im just saying that "gallardo is the best supercar aside from the Bugatti Veryon" is a big claim..
