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[quote=allanlambo]
thats true, most magazines got 117-118 in a gallardo, but thats an early Gallardo. As we recently verified on the dyno, an 06 makes 40rwhp more than the 04/05's.
Anyway, as for the 997TT and the Z06 trapping 121, sorry to say, but unfortunately, my moneys on the chevy.
Most of the early mags i saw actually didnt even get that, i saw 114-116. I would imagine 40 rwhp more would yield a couple more mph. the 997TT matches the z06 up to 120, does the gallardo? jw. as for the ferrari favorable outcomes, thats a shame because ferrari is being outdone by porsche and lambo left and right. im very excited to see when the cayman gtr comes out. 380 hp and that car is going to be tearing everything up at the track.
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
thats true, most magazines got 117-118 in a gallardo, but thats an early Gallardo. As we recently verified on the dyno, an 06 makes 40rwhp more than the 04/05's.
Anyway, as for the 997TT and the Z06 trapping 121, sorry to say, but unfortunately, my moneys on the chevy.
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Most of the early mags i saw actually didnt even get that, i saw 114-116. I would imagine 40 rwhp more would yield a couple more mph. the 997TT matches the z06 up to 120, does the gallardo? jw. as for the ferrari favorable outcomes, thats a shame because ferrari is being outdone by porsche and lambo left and right. im very excited to see when the cayman gtr comes out. 380 hp and that car is going to be tearing everything up at the track.
Since the 997TT is running 120-121, I think one magazine got as low as 117 already, and the Chevy is hitting 125-126 on several occasions, the 997 will not match the Z06 in the least.
Here is Autocars verdict:
The verdict
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs. Italy – for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and, after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It’s not unchecked movement; in fact, it’s always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under brakes and out of corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yards out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But beside the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanor. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and – amazingly – much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced nor as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here’s the real killer. When a little later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty dual-lane highway up to a speed we won’t be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911’s scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they’re all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back to London at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tire roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilized over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it’s the best of its kind so far by some margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it’s almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
-Steve Sutcliffe /Autocar
Originally Posted by allanlambo
Most of the early mags i saw actually didnt even get that, i saw 114-116. I would imagine 40 rwhp more would yield a couple more mph. the 997TT matches the z06 up to 120, does the gallardo? jw. as for the ferrari favorable outcomes, thats a shame because ferrari is being outdone by porsche and lambo left and right. im very excited to see when the cayman gtr comes out. 380 hp and that car is going to be tearing everything up at the track.
Here is Autocars verdict:
The verdict
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs. Italy – for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and, after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It’s not unchecked movement; in fact, it’s always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under brakes and out of corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yards out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But beside the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanor. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and – amazingly – much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced nor as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here’s the real killer. When a little later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty dual-lane highway up to a speed we won’t be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911’s scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they’re all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back to London at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tire roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilized over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it’s the best of its kind so far by some margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it’s almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
-Steve Sutcliffe /Autocar
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Since the 997TT is running 120-121, I think one magazine got as low as 117 already, and the Chevy is hitting 125-126 on several occasions, the 997 will not match the Z06 in the least.
Here is Autocars verdict:
The verdict
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs. Italy – for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and, after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It’s not unchecked movement; in fact, it’s always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under brakes and out of corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yards out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But beside the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanor. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and – amazingly – much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced nor as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here’s the real killer. When a little later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty dual-lane highway up to a speed we won’t be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911’s scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they’re all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back to London at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tire roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilized over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it’s the best of its kind so far by some margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it’s almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
-Steve Sutcliffe /Autocar
Either way, i love them both. I wouldnt be able to choose one or the other very easily. I think its great that both are AWD and great system, although i feel porsche's system is much better, given that is can push 100% power to either axle as the g is set at 30/70 f/r. The g is a high reving car, while the turbo is a twin turbo beast. if i were going to be modding, no contest i choose the 997TT and then chip, headers, 200 cell cats, and exhaust give me clos eto prob 600 hp which the g cannot keep up with. i would then still buy a g for the high reving nature. i still think they are the two best supercars in the world IMO, except for the like of CGT etc.
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
Since the 997TT is running 120-121, I think one magazine got as low as 117 already, and the Chevy is hitting 125-126 on several occasions, the 997 will not match the Z06 in the least.
Here is Autocars verdict:
The verdict
So in the end it was between the Gallardo and the 911. Clinical, efficient ground coverer versus highly strung but also surprisingly well resolved V10 supercar. Germany vs. Italy – for the second time of asking this summer.
I drove the 911 again and, after the Ferrari, was amazed to discover just how much body movement there is when you drive this car quickly. It’s not unchecked movement; in fact, it’s always perfectly controlled, and the harder I drove it the more impressive the 911 Turbo became. The way it would just stick under brakes and out of corners was genuinely eye-opening, and the sheer speed it could generate down any straight was enough to pull several yards out of the Ferrari in an instant, seemingly with no more than the twitch of your right foot.
But beside the more sorted Lamborghini the 911 felt (whisper this) antiquated in its demeanor. The Gallardo would carve its way into and through corners with absolute stability and virtually no body roll whatsoever. It also had fantastic body control and – amazingly – much more adjustability available via the throttle if either end started to run wide. The 911, by comparison, rolled more, suffered from more pitch and dive under acceleration and brakes, sounded utterly unmemorable and felt neither as well balanced nor as fluid as the Lambo in the quicker corners.
And here’s the real killer. When a little later we accelerated them side by side from a rolling start at 25mph on an empty dual-lane highway up to a speed we won’t be publishing here, the Lambo stayed with the Turbo every inch of the way. Take the benefits of the 911’s scorching 0-30mph ability out of the equation, in other words, and they’re all but identically matched on acceleration. And the fact that when I drove it back to London at the end of the day the Lambo generated less tire roar than the 911 and felt, by and large, more civilized over the exact same road, well, it just about sealed it for the Gallardo in the end.
Porsche has produced a quite astonishing piece of engineering in the form of the new 911 Turbo, no question; it’s the best of its kind so far by some margin. But the Gallardo, revised for 2006, is something else again. Bugatti Veyron aside, it’s almost certainly the best supercar in the world right now.
-Steve Sutcliffe /Autocar
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Either way, i love them both. I wouldnt be able to choose one or the other very easily. I think its great that both are AWD and great system, although i feel porsche's system is much better, given that is can push 100% power to either axle as the g is set at 30/70 f/r. The g is a high reving car, while the turbo is a twin turbo beast. if i were going to be modding, no contest i choose the 997TT and then chip, headers, 200 cell cats, and exhaust give me clos eto prob 600 hp which the g cannot keep up with. i would then still buy a g for the high reving nature. i still think they are the two best supercars in the world IMO, except for the like of CGT etc.
I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
Originally Posted by allanlambo
Either way, i love them both. I wouldnt be able to choose one or the other very easily. I think its great that both are AWD and great system, although i feel porsche's system is much better, given that is can push 100% power to either axle as the g is set at 30/70 f/r. The g is a high reving car, while the turbo is a twin turbo beast. if i were going to be modding, no contest i choose the 997TT and then chip, headers, 200 cell cats, and exhaust give me clos eto prob 600 hp which the g cannot keep up with. i would then still buy a g for the high reving nature. i still think they are the two best supercars in the world IMO, except for the like of CGT etc.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
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[quote=allanlambo]
I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
Yeah the Turbo is a exceptional car indeed...( I'm the biggest Porsche fan, I must admit that )but the exotic look of the G it's what could make me think days and days...The Lambo is like a more special car then the T!
I'm able to say that just because I saw both of them...If I should go buying one I'd have some nightmares
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
I'm able to say that just because I saw both of them...If I should go buying one I'd have some nightmares
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
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I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
Both have their own look and feel and sound. I think both are exotic on their own ways. Again, like them both.
Originally Posted by PorscheC4
I definitely agree, the Turbo will be much better to mod. But for me, no matter how fast you make the Porsche, it wont outweigh the gallardo look, feel and sound.
I looked at the new Car and Driver which has the 997TT vs the new Z06, and it gives a good illustration of how most of the Porsches performance is in its launch. When they did 0-60mph, I believe the Porsche beat the Z06 easily. When they did a 5mph to 60mph test, the Z06 left the Porsche for dead, 4.0sec to 4.6 seconds for the Porsche.
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