Gallardo and LP640 SV
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Gallardo and LP640 SV
talked to my local dealer and he informed me that there is a Gallardo and LP640 SV coming...SV = RWD 
...anyone have any info on this?
ps. he also informed me that the first 3 LP640 SV prototypes were destroyed by the test drivers
...anyone have any info on this?ps. he also informed me that the first 3 LP640 SV prototypes were destroyed by the test drivers
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Originally Posted by 786
talked to my local dealer and he informed me that there is a Gallardo and LP640 SV coming...SV = RWD ...anyone have any info on this?
ps. he also informed me that the first 3 LP640 SV prototypes were destroyed by the test drivers
...anyone have any info on this?ps. he also informed me that the first 3 LP640 SV prototypes were destroyed by the test drivers
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Your dealer is full of crap. no plans for an SV, and the first 3 prototypes that were destroyed were regular LP640's.
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Originally Posted by allanlambo
Your dealer is full of crap. no plans for an SV, and the first 3 prototypes that were destroyed were regular LP640's.
thats gay, he specifically told me the SV was coming in both flavors...i was surprised because i had not heard of this anywhere else...he must have been new or something...this was told to me at lamborghini of dallas fyi
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Yes, that dealer was going way beyond wishful thinking!! Lamborghini will NEVER offer a RWD EVER as long as Audi owns it; too much liability.
However, my Murci is RWD, my Murci Roadster, my fiancé's Gallardo Coupe and Spyder are being converted over and my LP640 Roadster when it comes in will be converted to RWD. It's a very simple, 5 hours process that makes a night and day difference!
However, my Murci is RWD, my Murci Roadster, my fiancé's Gallardo Coupe and Spyder are being converted over and my LP640 Roadster when it comes in will be converted to RWD. It's a very simple, 5 hours process that makes a night and day difference!
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Originally Posted by D.Wiggs
Yes, that dealer was going way beyond wishful thinking!! Lamborghini will NEVER offer a RWD EVER as long as Audi owns it; too much liability.
However, my Murci is RWD, my Murci Roadster, my fiancé's Gallardo Coupe and Spyder are being converted over and my LP640 Roadster when it comes in will be converted to RWD. It's a very simple, 5 hours process that makes a night and day difference!
However, my Murci is RWD, my Murci Roadster, my fiancé's Gallardo Coupe and Spyder are being converted over and my LP640 Roadster when it comes in will be converted to RWD. It's a very simple, 5 hours process that makes a night and day difference!
how do the murci/gallardo feel in rwd? must be pretty awesome
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786: Yes, I will post below
Gill: Unbelievable! It is how the car(s) were MEANT to be, AWD was added as an afterthought MOST DEFINITELY!
SP Weazel: Hey Mark, I do not have any #'s yet, because my GTech Pro RR is in COlumbus, and me and my Murci are here in Pittsburgh. I will be back to Columbus inside 2 weeks though and will be sure to get some NET HP numbers. If Allan's car was at 433 AWHP, then the AW NET HP would most likely have been in the 410-420 range (given that NET HP takes into account wind resistance, friction of the tires, any incline in the road, etc.).
If I were guessing, and from what the Lambo techs say, it should have been a 10% gain over stock, or about 60HP (given the exhaust). I should be right around 510 RWHP. Have about 90-110 to go!! SHouldn't be much longer. I will definitely keep you updated. The difference in the handling and acceleration is literally NIGHT and DAY!
Gill: Unbelievable! It is how the car(s) were MEANT to be, AWD was added as an afterthought MOST DEFINITELY!
SP Weazel: Hey Mark, I do not have any #'s yet, because my GTech Pro RR is in COlumbus, and me and my Murci are here in Pittsburgh. I will be back to Columbus inside 2 weeks though and will be sure to get some NET HP numbers. If Allan's car was at 433 AWHP, then the AW NET HP would most likely have been in the 410-420 range (given that NET HP takes into account wind resistance, friction of the tires, any incline in the road, etc.).
If I were guessing, and from what the Lambo techs say, it should have been a 10% gain over stock, or about 60HP (given the exhaust). I should be right around 510 RWHP. Have about 90-110 to go!! SHouldn't be much longer. I will definitely keep you updated. The difference in the handling and acceleration is literally NIGHT and DAY!
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786, I will go into detail with what has either BEEN done so far, or what I know WILL be done. I will leave the stuff out that has multiple possibilities for that would be so long-winded, I would rather wait till a specific path has been chosen and then I will detail that.
First, the front driveshaft, differential, and torque tube were removed. Since the AWD system was mechanical, the car has no idea that anything is missing. Even the TCS (traction control) works perfectly which is great for really bad weather since my car is a daily driver. This resulted in a weight savings of 285 lbs. according to the UPS scale at the dealership and a gain of approximately 60HP (exact figures to come).
The Murcis steering in AWD fitment was always very sluggish and ultra heavy at slow speeds. Now the steering is razor-sharp, and very easy at slow speeds (understandably so). The car turns is on a dime and can be flicked from side to side with the ease of a 360 or 430, instead of feeling like a freight train on railroad tracks. I have go into a corner, get it sideways, and then throttle modulate it all the way through with great ease.
When I think of Lamborghini, I think of a very fast, very lightweight race car. Well, the Murci was fast, but NOT light (3990 LBS!). Now, I am fast approaching what it should have always been.
Next, a custom header back exhaust is being put in which will account for a gain of around 40 RWHP as well as a weight savings of around 110LBS. over stock. To control this, a new sintered clutch is being put on for the Lambo stock clutch is VERY VERY weak! Also, a set of ultra-light CCW wheels, 19 LBS. PER WHEEL lighter than STOCK and 30 LBS. lighter PER WHEEL than my stupid "SHOW" wheels will make a monumental difference in acceleration, braking, and handling.
After that, the '05 Murci front brake upgrade will go on (no need to go bigger since I am shaving the car of 700 LBS. of weight).
A new Ohlens lightweight suspension is going on that will be much stiffer for that is one thing that surprised me. In RWD fitment, the Murci lifts the front end like a powerboat out of water under hard acceleration; it's actually quite funny. The new suspension along with electric front-end lift instead of a hydraulic one will save a total of 75 LBS.
On the interior, Carbon Fibre race seats will replace my factory ones and titanium fasteners will replace all of the steel ones resulting in almost 100 LBS. of weight loss.
Lastly, there will be some gearing changes, and a lightweight sound system replacing the MDF constructed one I currently have.
Along with a few minor things I have not mentioned (but will later) I will have the car down to between 3200 and 3300 lbs. and around 600-625 RWHP. A power-to -weight ratio that the CGT and Enzo can only dream of (in reality, not just manufacturer claims). In fact, up until 160 MPH, not even a Veyron could pull on it.
^^^^^That is what a Murci is SUPPOSED TO BE !!!
First, the front driveshaft, differential, and torque tube were removed. Since the AWD system was mechanical, the car has no idea that anything is missing. Even the TCS (traction control) works perfectly which is great for really bad weather since my car is a daily driver. This resulted in a weight savings of 285 lbs. according to the UPS scale at the dealership and a gain of approximately 60HP (exact figures to come).
The Murcis steering in AWD fitment was always very sluggish and ultra heavy at slow speeds. Now the steering is razor-sharp, and very easy at slow speeds (understandably so). The car turns is on a dime and can be flicked from side to side with the ease of a 360 or 430, instead of feeling like a freight train on railroad tracks. I have go into a corner, get it sideways, and then throttle modulate it all the way through with great ease.
When I think of Lamborghini, I think of a very fast, very lightweight race car. Well, the Murci was fast, but NOT light (3990 LBS!). Now, I am fast approaching what it should have always been.
Next, a custom header back exhaust is being put in which will account for a gain of around 40 RWHP as well as a weight savings of around 110LBS. over stock. To control this, a new sintered clutch is being put on for the Lambo stock clutch is VERY VERY weak! Also, a set of ultra-light CCW wheels, 19 LBS. PER WHEEL lighter than STOCK and 30 LBS. lighter PER WHEEL than my stupid "SHOW" wheels will make a monumental difference in acceleration, braking, and handling.
After that, the '05 Murci front brake upgrade will go on (no need to go bigger since I am shaving the car of 700 LBS. of weight).
A new Ohlens lightweight suspension is going on that will be much stiffer for that is one thing that surprised me. In RWD fitment, the Murci lifts the front end like a powerboat out of water under hard acceleration; it's actually quite funny. The new suspension along with electric front-end lift instead of a hydraulic one will save a total of 75 LBS.
On the interior, Carbon Fibre race seats will replace my factory ones and titanium fasteners will replace all of the steel ones resulting in almost 100 LBS. of weight loss.
Lastly, there will be some gearing changes, and a lightweight sound system replacing the MDF constructed one I currently have.
Along with a few minor things I have not mentioned (but will later) I will have the car down to between 3200 and 3300 lbs. and around 600-625 RWHP. A power-to -weight ratio that the CGT and Enzo can only dream of (in reality, not just manufacturer claims). In fact, up until 160 MPH, not even a Veyron could pull on it.
^^^^^That is what a Murci is SUPPOSED TO BE !!!
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Originally Posted by SP_wEaZeL
Honestly, I hope you hit that horsepower number, but from experience, I don't believe you will. Good luck and keep us posted.
That is how weak it is. We are all losing power just because of the clutch for starters. This was done, to limit repair costs by Lambo, since a clutch is much cheaper than front driveline components, but now that it is RWD, it is VERY noticable.
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Originally Posted by D.Wiggs
Thanks, I know it is not "easy", but you would be surprised as to the potential left in the motor, especially when you start "beefing" up the motor. One of the Lamborghini head techs was telling me that he learned that the factory clutch slips something rediculous like 5-10 times per 100 revolutions!
That is how weak it is. We are all losing power just because of the clutch for starters. This was done, to limit repair costs by Lambo, since a clutch is much cheaper than front driveline components, but now that it is RWD, it is VERY noticable.
That is how weak it is. We are all losing power just because of the clutch for starters. This was done, to limit repair costs by Lambo, since a clutch is much cheaper than front driveline components, but now that it is RWD, it is VERY noticable.