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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Why is it that everyone is so entranced with 0-60 numbers? In reality the 0-100 and 1/4 mile numbers are much more important.
In your opinion, not everybody else's... People were molded to think that 0-60 times are important (especially in this country). Just like they (me) were molded to think that Ferraris and Porsches are the best cars ever. It is a belief system (sometimes founded, sometimes unfounded).

It takes a long time to un-learn this, and by the time they do, they are older and wiser, and no longer bother drag racing everybody from a dig. Because we can't travel 100mph legally on public roads, this time becomes irrelevant for those won't go, except for the purpose of mag racing.
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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true, but in most cases, 0-60 is so irrelevant, on a track except from a dead start it is irrelevant, the acceleration out of corners from a 30 mph roll is infinitely more important. I like the way the M5board guy due their roll ons, I think it's 100-250 kph? or something like that.
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
true, but in most cases, 0-60 is so irrelevant, on a track except from a dead start it is irrelevant, the acceleration out of corners from a 30 mph roll is infinitely more important. I like the way the M5board guy due their roll ons, I think it's 100-250 kph? or something like that.
I completely agree with your perspective. Who really goes from 0-60 (ever)? I'm just saying that the American population has been brainwashed by marketing of 0-60 times.
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
I completely agree with your perspective. Who really goes from 0-60 (ever)? I'm just saying that the American population has been brainwashed by marketing of 0-60 times.

It is impressive to have a sub 3 0-60 for sure, but it's funny how some cars fall flat after that. I read an article on the large 4 door behemoth RR and Bentley. The Bentley was faster to 60, but the Rolls, absolutely stomped it after that and not by a little bit.

Besides, who wants all those GTR's rolling around without warranty
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Prche951
It is impressive to have a sub 3 0-60 for sure, but it's funny how some cars fall flat after that. I read an article on the large 4 door behemoth RR and Bentley. The Bentley was faster to 60, but the Rolls, absolutely stomped it after that and not by a little bit.

Besides, who wants all those GTR's rolling around without warranty
LC2, LC3 and LC4 are all covered with no issues. And once again, I agree completely.

BUT there is an extreme flipside to this... who cares what the acceleration is from 100mph -200mph? (I know you didn't take it this far).

I mean, if we are talking about mag racing (and so on), a lot of people are only concerned about - can I outrun 'x' car on the highway...

Relevance? That's about the extent of about 90% of all owners of sports cars. Being able to spout off 0-60 times, and run fast when already moving in straight line.
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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For me 0-60

is just what I grew up on, and it is important to me because can enjoy 0 to 60 with out going to jail
 
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how ever I think 5 to 60

is a much more real world bench mark. Anyone can punch it from 5 to 60. There is not real wear and tear on the car trying to get the best launch out of the hole. 30 to 60 is really the fun zone on the street.
 
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Originally Posted by tourbillon001
is just what I grew up on, and it is important to me because can enjoy 0 to 60 with out going to jail
You could possibly get ticketed for "reckless (driving) endangerment". They can't get you for "spinning your tires" in a GT-R though.

Going back to a previous topic. I would never brag to top anyone here, but my Nissan dealership is so wonderful... they actually pay me to bring my GT-R in for service.

Also, are there still people out there perpetuating the hypothesis that the "Launch Control" is not warranted by Nissan?
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tachsman
You could possibly get ticketed for "reckless (driving) endangerment". They can't get you for "spinning your tires" in a GT-R though.

Going back to a previous topic. I would never brag to top anyone here, but my Nissan dealership is so wonderful... they actually pay me to bring my GT-R in for service.

Also, are there still people out there perpetuating the hypothesis that the "Launch Control" is not warranted by Nissan?
#1 -

#2 - They pay you? Do tell...

#3 - You mean myth, right? As opposed to hypothesis?
 
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Originally Posted by Tachsman
Also, are there still people out there perpetuating the hypothesis that the "Launch Control" is not warranted by Nissan?
I sold my 2009 GTR last week, and I bought a new leftover 2010 GTR today and with my first GTR I didn't have to sign anything about the warranty or anything but today I did have to sign that sheet on my 2010. Does anybody know conclusively what will or won't be covered if there is an issue? I tuned my last GTR and ran the car in the 1/4 mile and I never had any problems with the car and I wasn't concerned about tuning it because I didn't sign any waiver for that car. Today reading through the waiver sheet they made me sign today, what I got from it is that if it is determined that something breaks because traction control is off that they will deny the warranty claim, is that the case or am I misunderstanding it?
 

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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
#1 -

#2 - They pay you? Do tell...

#3 - You mean myth, right? As opposed to hypothesis?
#2 - pay me (their undying gratitude and respect) to bring

#3 - Agree, myth does work better here.


No "Launch Control"? Hey, no way Ray, what may Jay say today... nay?

Is the 2010MY at 3.3 seconds from 0-60 mph really faster than the 2009MY at 3.5 seconds noted in the video below?
And has anyone tested or know the 0-60 mph time for the 2012MY without using its Launch Control?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1bHG...yer_detailpage
 

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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tachsman
Also, are there still people out there perpetuating the hypothesis that the "Launch Control" is not warranted by Nissan?

Yeah, it's called Nissan and NAGTROC

NISSANS OWN WORDS...TRANNY NOT COVERED!!! WHEN VDC OFF!!!
http://www.2009gtr.com/2009/04/2010-...agreement.html

The GT-R will continue to offer supercar characteristics of exceptional handling, maneuvering, and overall driving experience. You are reminded to drive safely and obey all traffic laws. The GT-R Owner’s Manual expressly warns against driving with the VDC OFF (except to free the vehicle when stuck in mud or snow) to avoid damage. Repairs for damage caused by driving with VDC OFF are expressly excluded under the terms of the Nissan GT-R New Car Limited Warranty. To avoid risk for such repairs, you are reminded to drive with VDC ON at all times. Except when stuck, there is no reason to be driving with VDC OFF.
Are there people still perpetuating the idea that it IS covered?

From your own brethren on nagtroc.

Depends. The GTR has a device that tracks your behavior of how you've been driving. If you have raced it dyno'ed it or abused it in any fashion yes they can and potentially will deny you of warranty. Sucks when the transmission cost $23k I called up my local dealership to verify this price too. But now if your transmissiond oes break you can have another company rebuild it for a few thousand instead. I believe all hard parts for the transmission is $11k.

What sucks is if you push over 800whp the transmissio i dont' believe has been ironed out to handle the power even with upgraded clutches. Even if you run that consultant III or whatever that thign is called.
With no modifications, and no launches at the dragstrip, no problem.
So where does NISSAN state differently?
 
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I'm hitting moroso, PBIR, on wednesday with 2012 GT-R, anyone in south florida with a turbo s want to give it a run at the track?
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Yeah, it's called Nissan and NAGTROC

NISSANS OWN WORDS...TRANNY NOT COVERED!!! WHEN VDC OFF!!!
http://www.2009gtr.com/2009/04/2010-...agreement.html



Are there people still perpetuating the idea that it IS covered?

From your own brethren on nagtroc.





So where does NISSAN state differently?
Since when does my car need any setting to use launch control?

I do not have to use any setting to launch. And I am completely covered by warranty. Do I launch with VDC-off? No. No need to.

I press brake, press gas, release brake.

I believe you're reading too much into this. VDC-off is not required to launch.

*edit: I'll repeat - LC2, 3, 4 is covered under warranty (in other words, every GT-R being sold for the last 2+ years (and retroactively, every other GT-R, who brought their cars in to get this program). LC does not require VDC to be off, which negates the warranty verbage you've pasted here.
 

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