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Old Dec 22, 2021 | 04:50 PM
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Panamera Brakes - Replacement and Tips

All - I have a beautiful 2010 Panamera 4S.

It does not have ceramic brakes.

I believe the brakes are due soon. That said, I wanted to purchase some nice after-market and have my Indy mechanic install them.

I really don’t want to deal with brake dust anymore. I’ve heard that ceramic brake pads will produce much less brake dust. And as always, I am told that I should change my brake pads along with the rotors, so planning on doing so.

However, I am really confused as to which size will fit my calipers? Also, do I need to change my rotors to ceramic rotors if I want ceramic brake pads?

Any good recommendations would be much appreciated!



 
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Hawk Ceramic pads are what I used with standard steel Zimmerman Rotors on my 2011 Panamera Turbo. I think the Hawks were called Yellow. I told my independent mechanic to buy the rotors and pads i wanted. Consider buying your pads and rotors from FCP Euro so that you can get the parts for free next time around; see there lifetime warranty and how to return used parts. I learned about this after my rotor and pad purchase, so ... I missed out. Next time I plan to buy through FCP Euro.

The ceramic pads got rid of 97% of the dust; I love them! I felt a loss of probably 5% "grabbiness" in the beginning, but I do not notice any difference now, 60K miles later.

Search for posts about "bedding new pads".
 
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Rotor replacement. It is typically recommended by dealers and indys. Dealers usually insist replacement. Porsche rotors are very expensive. Centric makes some Panamera rotors; and I think their quality is very good. My opinion is not to replace rotors until actually needed. I measure need by whether or not the rotors have become warped, which is easy to determine - brake pedal throbbing. I do not go to the extent of measuring wear. Factory wear measurements are very conservative. When I order rotors I also have them "cyro" treated at about $100 each.
 
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Originally Posted by Kirkman
Rotor replacement. It is typically recommended by dealers and indys. Dealers usually insist replacement. Porsche rotors are very expensive. Centric makes some Panamera rotors; and I think their quality is very good. My opinion is not to replace rotors until actually needed. I measure need by whether or not the rotors have become warped, which is easy to determine - brake pedal throbbing. I do not go to the extent of measuring wear. Factory wear measurements are very conservative. When I order rotors I also have them "cyro" treated at about $100 each.
Can you explain CYRO treating to me?
 
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Cyrogenic treatment is where the item is lowered into a bath of liquid nitrogen and frozen almost to absolute zero. Then it is thawed. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_treatment

Cyrogenic treatment probably originated in aerospace industry. Many large cities have privately-owned Cyrogenic shops. A friend once owned the shop in Minneapolis. Business was slow, and he sold it. I think cyrogenic has not really caught on with the auto community. That's too bad. I think it is a real benefit. I did the rotors on a heavy weight Hyundai Equus, which had very large rotors that often warped. I probably did 60K additional troublefree miles on the Cyro-treated rotors. At $100 or so an rotor, I think it is well worth the cost, particularly for track users.

 
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