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Old Feb 12, 2022 | 06:22 AM
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Replacement for the Michelin PSS

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My Michelin Pilot Super Sports are nearing the end of their useful life and I am looking to purchase new summer tires for my '16 Panamera GTS. These tires are incredible summer tires, but are quite harsh and are awful in colder, non-snowy conditions.

As I live in the north where we get quite a bit of cold and snow, I have dedicated Michelin Alpin's winter tires that I use during the winter months. The Michelin PSS's, though, are just not good at all at temperatures less than 10 C (50 F) as they 'skip' and lose their grip considerably, forcing me to change to my winters in late October/early November and not changing back to my summers until late March/early April, even when the snow has disappeared.

I am looking for a great dedicated summer tire which rides more comfortably and deals with colder, non-snowy conditions better than the Michelin PSS's.

Any suggestions?

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Old Feb 12, 2022 | 11:23 AM
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Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4. I just got a set replacing Michelin PSS and they've been great. Nice price as well.
 
Old Feb 12, 2022 | 02:11 PM
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Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4. I just got a set replacing Michelin PSS and they've been great. Nice price as well.
Thanks. Where did you buy them?
 
Old Feb 12, 2022 | 02:40 PM
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Tire America. I couldn't find the rear tires anywhere else and they also had the lowest listed price as well as a 10% off coupon so the price was great. I got the much less expensive non-N-spec version which, strangely enough, has a higher speed rating then the N-spec.

They're out of stock now. I see Tirerack has the fronts now but only one rear.
 
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Now I am reading that the Michelin PS 5 is coming out in March. Guess it will be between the PS4S or the PS5.
 
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I don't know that those summer tires will be helping your cold weather issues. The AS4s have helped with mine. No more "acorn effect" since I got them and they feel as good as my PS2 and PSS did.
 
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You want a summer tire that's good in hot and the cold?
 
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No. I need a tire that is better when the temperature drops below 10C (50F). As I stated in my original post, I have dedicated winter tires so I am looking for a summer tire that can handle cooler temperatures better than the PSS so I do not have to change them to my winters in late October/early November.
 
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Note:

PS4 is max performance summer
PS4S is max+10% performance summer

PS4 replacement (PS5) is due this month

PS4S replacement (presumably PS5S) is not announced AFAIK.
 
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The Continentals may be an improvement for your use case, but you're better off having dedicated winter/summer setups and switch every 6 months. I change at the end of October and the end of April every year as we can still get surprise snow storms in the springtime here in the Rockies. All-season's are your only other option; they'll provide better mileage, eliminate the cold-weather acorn effect but you'll lose some performance. Many don't seem to notice the decrease in performance
 
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