958.1 Passenger Tail Light not working (RH and gate)
#1
958.1 Passenger Tail Light not working (RH and gate)
One day the tail light is working, the next day... not so much. No error messages and no codes. When I lock the car, all lights flash as they should (different set than brake light it seems) but it will not light up on braking or when the lights are turned on. There doesn't seem to be a fuse that needs to be replaced and from what I've seen on the other forums there hasn't been a solid explanation for this. can't seem to find a post in the forum here but has anyone else had any experience with this?
#2
Will Durametric diagnose issue with rear end electronics control module?
I took out both lights, looked for loose connections and all seems to sit properly, not that I expected any less though. I'm wondering if this issue might be stemming from the rear end electronics control module. I don't know a lot about the durametric tool, but would if I snagged one would it be able to read if that is where the issue lay?
#3
Still trying to figure out the tail light
No thoughts here yet but I figured I'd keep the post going just in case (and in hopes) anybody had some insight. So when I lock the car, the the LED panel will light up on both the panel and the gate. But when driving lights are on, the panel will not light up. I took apart the interior panel today for access to the module and I noticed a piece of tape on one of the wires. I also noticed 2 broken tabs as I was taking the panels off. Obviously someone else has been back here, but would the tape have been on there from the factory or is it from someone else fixing something back here? At first it looked like it was on multiple wires but it is only on the black wire. Once I figure out these colors I'll try pull out the multimeter and test.
#4
Quick update on what I've done so far. Used a 9v to check the LEDs on the unit and they all checked out. I check the tail light connector and I have continuity and 13v. I check the module, no issue to be found. Plug the lights back in and everything is working properly. Take a car for a quick spin (just to enjoy it for a min) come back and check...still good. Go for a drive about 30 minutes later, not working. Has to be a loose connection somewhere I guess, but I'm not sure at which point. Hoping its at the light.
#5
Last update. This thing drove me crazy. Originally tested the pulled light with a 9v battery and all worked great but would not work in car so I thought it was rear bcm. But kept getting good reading out of the rear bcm so I couldn't really find the fault. Finally tested the light on a 12v battery and problem is def the tail light, when hooked up it just flashes and goes off. I don't know wiring that well, but I figured I'd crack open the tail light and take a look. I've dremeled a couple of tail lights in the past so no big deal, right? This one though... not worth it. There is no room for error. I just ended up getting a new tail light and I'm back on the road. Attached though is the wiring for a 2012 base in case its useful for anyone down the line.
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit -
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit -
#7
Last update. This thing drove me crazy. Originally tested the pulled light with a 9v battery and all worked great but would not work in car so I thought it was rear bcm. But kept getting good reading out of the rear bcm so I couldn't really find the fault. Finally tested the light on a 12v battery and problem is def the tail light, when hooked up it just flashes and goes off. I don't know wiring that well, but I figured I'd crack open the tail light and take a look. I've dremeled a couple of tail lights in the past so no big deal, right? This one though... not worth it. There is no room for error. I just ended up getting a new tail light and I'm back on the road. Attached though is the wiring for a 2012 base in case its useful for anyone down the line.
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit -
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit -
Do you know if both tailgate and body assembly units are required to be replaced? I'm trying to just replace the faulty one. Doesn't make sense that both would go out at the same time. I'm thinking one feeds the other. Anyhow if you have any insight, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
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Hi Audiomutt,
Do you know if both tailgate and body assembly units are required to be replaced? I'm trying to just replace the faulty one. Doesn't make sense that both would go out at the same time. I'm thinking one feeds the other. Anyhow if you have any insight, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Do you know if both tailgate and body assembly units are required to be replaced? I'm trying to just replace the faulty one. Doesn't make sense that both would go out at the same time. I'm thinking one feeds the other. Anyhow if you have any insight, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
#10
Great write up! Had the exact symptoms and went directly with replacing the tail lights with newer used set....Ops ck good!
I have to say WTF...what causes LED lights to become intermittent (over heating of the elements, faulty assembly, etc)??
Has anyone repaired an intermittent tail light by replacing LED’s or other?
Thanks for saving me time not troubleshooting the entire system!
I have to say WTF...what causes LED lights to become intermittent (over heating of the elements, faulty assembly, etc)??
Has anyone repaired an intermittent tail light by replacing LED’s or other?
Thanks for saving me time not troubleshooting the entire system!
Last update. This thing drove me crazy. Originally tested the pulled light with a 9v battery and all worked great but would not work in car so I thought it was rear bcm. But kept getting good reading out of the rear bcm so I couldn't really find the fault. Finally tested the light on a 12v battery and problem is def the tail light, when hooked up it just flashes and goes off. I don't know wiring that well, but I figured I'd crack open the tail light and take a look. I've dremeled a couple of tail lights in the past so no big deal, right? This one though... not worth it. There is no room for error. I just ended up getting a new tail light and I'm back on the road. Attached though is the wiring for a 2012 base in case its useful for anyone down the line.
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
BTW if anyone planning on doing any repining of wires. This came in handy for me. The blue one has a solid fit - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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