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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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PSS10 or KW V3

I am planning on installing coilovers soon on my 2008 C2 non PASM. I am torn between these two and would appreciate any insight as to which one is better. My goal is to lower the car (probably to GT3 spec) for looks and into improve overall handling characteristics. I am not buying them for track use though I may begin doing some driving events in the future. Both products come highly recommended. Thanks in advance.
 
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If it was me KW if you are doing track work.

Otherwise PSS10s are a good choice for teh street.
 
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had kw v3 on the viper and damptronics on the c2s.

either one will do you well. just go with the cheaper one.
 
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Do they make PS10's that are NOT Damptronics? I wouldn't recommend the Damptronics model for a non-PASM car. I believe that Bilstein make a PS9 (help me here please) for PASM-challenged cars.
I can't comment on the other brands, but the absence of PASM gives you a lot more choices (e.g. Moton, KW) (PASM cars CAN use non-PASM compatible co's, but you lose the function and have the shut off the warming at the dealer).
 
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Do they make PS10's that are NOT Damptronics? I wouldn't recommend the Damptronics model for a non-PASM car. I believe that Bilstein make a PS9 (help me here please) for PASM-challenged cars.
I can't comment on the other brands, but the absence of PASM gives you a lot more choices (e.g. Moton, KW) (PASM cars CAN use non-PASM compatible co's, but you lose the function and have the shut off the warming at the dealer).
yeah they make a pss10 for the non-pasm cars
 
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I have the Bilsteins (Damptronics), and love them. If I didn't have PASM, I would get Moton, or KW V's.
 
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Hey guys, I am looking for Coilovers as well. I've got a 2008 C2S, and equipped with PASM (standard in S as you know). The PSS10 is expensive but is it worth the price, what do you suggest?
 
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Hey guys, I am looking for Coilovers as well. I've got a 2008 C2S, and equipped with PASM (standard in S as you know). The PSS10 is expensive but is it worth the price, what do you suggest?
for the S, the damptronics is the only way to go
 
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for the S, the damptronics is the only way to go
I know, but they are a little expensive...
 
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Originally Posted by sin911
I know, but they are a little expensive...
Buying the springs and then months later caving in to upgrade to the damptronics is the most expensive . Got to get the best right out of the gate.
 
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+1. With PASM, the Damptronics are the only way to preserve that functionality (although the dealer can just shut off the warning light and then you can use whatever else you wish). But I wouldn't want to give up PASM - though I'm not sure why.
However, if you're just looking for the lowered 'look', you might be happy long-term with just new springs. If you're not sure, spend the money and go directly to coilovers.
Remember, the installation fee of the springs is about the same (a bit more actually) as the coilovers - about 1/3 to 1/4 of the coilovers themselves. So doing the install is a rather costly error.
Oh, and I assume that you'll be doing sway bars as well? It's like soup and sandwich.

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Buying the springs and then months later caving in to upgrade to the damptronics is the most expensive . Got to get the best right out of the gate.
 
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Originally Posted by Verde
+1. With PASM, the Damptronics are the only way to preserve that functionality (although the dealer can just shut off the warning light and then you can use whatever else you wish). But I wouldn't want to give up PASM - though I'm not sure why.
However, if you're just looking for the lowered 'look', you might be happy long-term with just new springs. If you're not sure, spend the money and go directly to coilovers.
Remember, the installation fee of the springs is about the same (a bit more actually) as the coilovers - about 1/3 to 1/4 of the coilovers themselves. So doing the install is a rather costly error.
Oh, and I assume that you'll be doing sway bars as well? It's like soup and sandwich.
Interesting that the quoted price for the install of the Coilover was more than the Springs for me...

I do not care for the PASM that much actually, I just want to lower the car and improve the handling... As for the Sway Bars, first I gotta get the Coilovers

BTW I loved your comments on the PDK s. 6 Speed article, you think just like me on the matter
 
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Last time I had coilovers installed, they charged me an extra 4 hours labor to corner balance the car. You can't check the weighting or ride height until you mount the wheels and have weight on the car. If it's off, you need to take the wheels off and get into the adjusters. Can take some time. Springs eliminate the hassle. I haven't heard about good shocks to go with some of the good spring sets though. Maybe the only way to get the adjustable PASM shocks is with the coilovers. After having coilovers once and an Eibach spring set with adjustable shock set up once, I would be inclined just to go with springs and shocks. The coilovers are just set them and forget them, unless you really want to tune for track times.
 
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