I missed this post last night !!
You did well !!!!

 

I agree, Vegasguy you did very well.

Imo the major difference between Sport and Sport Plus (SC) is when in auto mode. With Sport Plus in auto mode it's almost prescient for racing. Every shift is at redline and downshifts under breaking are instantaneous. You can basically set it and forget it on the track. Sport auto mode is still very good for enthusiastic street driving but is not as extreme as Sport Plus.

In (PDK) manual mode I really didn't notice much of a difference at all between Sport and Sport Plus. Maybe throttle response was boosted a bit in Sport Plus similar but not quite as instantaneous as the sprint booster effect but that's about it. Launch control is cool though and certainly does optimize 0-60 starts which is why PDK cars with SC are a couple tenths faster 0-60

Engine mounts. Honestly I can't see this having any noticeable effect on handling unless you are going for a complete coilover suspension such as Motons and pushing the car all out on the track

PASM in addition to providing enhanced handling which I would prefer over dynamic engine mounts provides
1. a taught yet comfortable ride you can enjoy everyday. Maybe the best ride I've experienced in a sports car. Amazing how Porsche could provide a level of comfort and damping that is still firm and precisie with no floatyness or mushyness at all.
2. 10 mm lowered height really adds to the overall look imo

Therefore unless a couple of tenths of a second matter to you and you plan on competing in track events, I would take PASM over SC. Of course if you can get both do so as Sport Plus auto can be a blast.

 

Ok I have the same problem. I'm planning to order a base 991 but I can't decide between PASM or Sport Chrono. Or both or none... I'm ordering the 7-speed manual so I don't think Chrono is as essential. The only gain would be the engine mounts. But I won't be tracking the car. Only occasionally pushing it a little.

I am curious how much more do you get out of the sport+ button compared to the "already standard" Sport button?

Is PASM worth it? I'm guessing it's something I have to try. Seems essential if Porsche decided to include it as standard on the S.

 

+1
Agree on everything you say, very well thought out and written down ! Sportchrono has zero benefits. I wasted my money on that option ! I do have Pasm too though. That is a must !

 

I've been driving my 2013 c4s with spasm and chrono (MT) since March. It's in sport + and firmer ride all the time now. Rev matching on the downshift, the firmer ride, even a delay in throttle roll off (resulting in smother upshifts) makes for one awesome ride.

I don't miss my 997.1 turbo at all and never used the firmer ride setting on it (too harsh). Porsche really evolved the platform, you should take advantage.

 

I was debating the same things.
I now have an S w/ 30K in options.
Here is whwat I now think;

On a base, skip PASM.
You can add KW Variant 3 coilovers later and dial in the exact ride quality and ride height you want. And thats only if you think the standard suspension is not good enough.

Skip SC on a PDK
It never gets used in street driving unless you want to race someone.

Get SC on a manual (for the rev matching)

Id skip all other performance options on a base, since its a well balanced car by design already so enjoy some savings.

I would get Burmester, because the Bose leaves me unimpressed.

Also, Natural Leather would be on my list as an upgrade over the normal Full Leather.

 

At the time of my PASM or Sport Chrono “dilemma,” I was also ordering a base (C2). However, I stretched my budget to the max and changed my order to a C2S. I’ve had my ’14 C2S (PDK, PSE, Sport Chrono) for a couple months now, and drive it only as a DD (no track, drag racing, etc.). Here are my personal observations concerning PASM and Sport Chrono: I don’t see any need (for me) for the Sport Chrono, except for perhaps the Dynamic Motor Mounts. My previous ’12 base C2 (no PASM or Sport Chrono) always had a slight vibration in the tail end (motor), and I always believed that it was due to the lack of the Dynamic Motor Mounts. I believe the Sport Chrono is only worth it because the dynamic motor mounts are worth having, which is probably why (my opinion!) Porsche only sells them in the Sport Chrono Package and not as a separate option. I don’t use or need the Sport Plus, and have never tried the Launch Control (it’s simply not rational or prudent to use it on city streets and highways. On a track – certainly!) The standard sport mode turns on the PSE (a must have option) and PASM, which provides for very nice and exciting driving. I believe PASM is also a must have option, as it changes the suspension “dynamics” of the car and really adds to the driving experience. I believe the car would become “boring” after a while without PASM. Actually, it quite quickly did for me. I kept my ’12 base C2, no PASM, for about a month. Just didn’t like it.

Hope this helps!

 

Thanks Vegasguy for your update. I'm surprised to hear that you're saying it'll become "boring" after a while without PASM. I would think PASM works in a way where you can't tell that it's working to give you the best ride all the time.

So your new S doesn't suffer from the vibration because of the sport Chrono? Do you know of any other reports of vibrations from people without the dynamic engine mounts?

I'm leaning towards PASM but still having trouble with Chrono. I don't need rev matching since I do that myself, just not perfect 100% of the time haha. And it only does it in sport+ mode. If they gave me a dedicated button just for rev matching I would consider differently.