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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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So I was originally looking at a cayman/boxster GTS but since my goal is to have a 911 at some point since I will be so close in price perhaps it should be now.

The C2 I optioned comes to about 122k so I can get around 8-10k off max. Bringing it down to 112-118k. Now what do people who buy a carerra mostly get? Because I don't need a car that will just plummet like a rock. If it is going to do that then I can get a cheaper one to plummet like a rock. Is this a stupid price to pay for just a base carerra?

Since I know with porsche the best value is to just get the biggest engine you can afford and stick with that. I am not asking the question so much as a oh every car depreciates kinda question but is this like a stupid amount. For example I could option a v6 panamera to 180k if I wanted to and THAT would be a stupid amount to pay for a v6. Thats kinda where I am heading with this question.

Also how is the carerra with every day driving? Is the performance enough? Or should I just wait till I can get a C2S or C4S?
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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If you are paying 122k, get the C2S. No way I would personally spec out a C2 with 120k. My C2S was at 120k - discounts got me close to your amount.
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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You should be able to get a well optioned c2s in the low 110s. But without having seen what you spec'd out in the c2, it's hard to say. But if you are spending in that range I'd say go for c2s.
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Buy a low mileage pre-owned C2S and save $$ and get a faster car with potential for longer warranty if CPO. That's what I would do.
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Buy a low mileage pre-owned C2S and save $$ and get a faster car with potential for longer warranty if CPO. That's what I would do.

This is a great way to go if you can find a CPO with the options you want. But, depending on your desired specs, it can be a tough chore.


OP - do you mind sharing your build/spec sheet? I had a 991 base and loved it. But I paid nowhere near even the low end of your discounted price of $112K. If I were spending that kind of money, the first box I would check would be S.
 
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Thats too many options for a C2.
You should keep it simple on a C2.
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:03 AM
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Here is the build:

mahogany metallic
black carerra s wheels
14 way adjustable seats with premium package
bose package
full luxor beige interior
LED headlights
clear glass tail lights
park assist front and rear
electric tilt sunroof
power folding mirrors
pasm plus with PTV
PDK
sport exhaust
sport chrono
white dials
white chrono
beige seat belts
porsche crest on head rest

I think that was about it

C2S with same options is 135k. Again MSRP is 122k but I could get it for 112-114k. And I am non negotiable on all the performance options. If I get rid of sunroof and drop down to bi xenon it comes to aound 118k MSRP so I could get for 110k-112k. But this is very good feedback. So far it seems to consensus is this would be a stupid purchase decision lol.
 

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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:26 AM
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If you can get 8% off on a 2014, you're doing well. More commonly discounts are typically 4 % to 5% off MSRP (2013 leftovers will discount higher, but most are cabs).

As far as depreciation goes, as the car gets older options matter less in the value of the vehicle, so for best resale down the road, a lightly optioned car returns more back to you in dollars and cents than a heavily optioned one. On used cars, warranties matter as well as dealer-serviced and a clean Car Fax. That's what you want to really focus on for re-sale value - might be worthwhile to consider buying an extended Porsche warranty and pre-paid maintenance.

I've owned both the Boxster S and now a 991 S. While the Boxster is a great car in its own right, the Porsche Franchise is the 911.
 
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i would cut out the power folding mirrors, a friend of mine has it and says he never uses it.

How much are the Porsche crests on head rest?
 
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i would cut out the power folding mirrors, a friend of mine has it and says he never uses it.

How much are the Porsche crests on head rest?
250. Hardly anything. I picked power folding mirrors more for resale I thought people use it lol. But I can cut that out too. I think its like 400.
 
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Originally Posted by drcollie
If you can get 8% off on a 2014, you're doing well. More commonly discounts are typically 4 % to 5% off MSRP (2013 leftovers will discount higher, but most are cabs).

As far as depreciation goes, as the car gets older options matter less in the value of the vehicle, so for best resale down the road, a lightly optioned car returns more back to you in dollars and cents than a heavily optioned one. On used cars, warranties matter as well as dealer-serviced and a clean Car Fax. That's what you want to really focus on for re-sale value - might be worthwhile to consider buying an extended Porsche warranty and pre-paid maintenance.

I've owned both the Boxster S and now a 991 S. While the Boxster is a great car in its own right, the Porsche Franchise is the 911.
Yea I looked at CPO cars but most never have the performance options or they have some. Also they are all mostly white or black outside and black inside. And that's boring. If I want a plain looking car I will just buy a RS5 or something like that. I told the guy at my dealer I have relationship with how about he orders a car for dealer stock with all my options and when no one buys after a year they give a big discount, add a 6 year warranty, and make it a CPO car even though its brand new lol. He has some caymans they did that too that he tried to sell me one but I don't want a base cayman.
 
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Originally Posted by speedsterr
So far it seems to consensus is this would be a stupid purchase decision lol.
I would not call it stupid. It goes back to how much you value performance vs cabin trim and features. The C2 is already a lot of car, but since you seem to be performance oriented (PTV, PDCC, Sport Chrono...), going for a C2S may be more logical.

Moneywise, you already know the story about depreciation, etc.
I would just point out that I have seen a lot of CPO'd C2S on my dealership lot, so there may be more choice than we think available out there.
 
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If you spec a C2 to 122k expect it to be worth 80-85k if you were to trade-in next year. You would be doing yourself a great disservice not getting the S at this price. The options don't hold their value. Some of the standard items like PDK, Sports Chrono are a must even the Bose and PSE I think are worth adding. For a base C2 you are getting carried away with gauges, seat belts full leather interior and LED headlights. You build a car like this and you will have one of the best C2's but thats like being the tallest midget.
 
Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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I would not call it stupid. It goes back to how much you value performance vs cabin trim and features. The C2 is already a lot of car, but since you seem to be performance oriented (PTV, PDCC, Sport Chrono...), going for a C2S may be more logical.

Moneywise, you already know the story about depreciation, etc.
I would just point out that I have seen a lot of CPO'd C2S on my dealership lot, so there may be more choice than we think available out there.

But see I feel with a porsche I should have both. It is supposed to be a no compromise car. So for me if I don't get performance and the luxury with it there is no point in my mind to take that depreciation. It isn't worth it to me then. But yea maybe there are some COP'd C2S out there with a lot of options not on cars.com.

Anyone know where else I can look?
 
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If you spec a C2 to 122k expect it to be worth 80-85k if you were to trade-in next year. You would be doing yourself a great disservice not getting the S at this price. The options don't hold their value. Some of the standard items like PDK, Sports Chrono are a must even the Bose and PSE I think are worth adding. For a base C2 you are getting carried away with gauges, seat belts full leather interior and LED headlights. You build a car like this and you will have one of the best C2's but thats like being the tallest midget.

lol thats how I felt. Which is why I started this thread. I can't compromise on full leather interior. I can go down to bi xenon head lights though. And I love the color guages that porsche does haha. Makes me think of ferrari.
 


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